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full of luv 09-08-2019 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by gipple (Post 2883295)
So the company that hates to pay for training hires the guy from Boeing who hides the fact that the aircraft may need additional $ training to be certified as a common type.
Industry leading integrity.

Yes but doesn't it bolster his motive that he thought it was completely safe, so much so he was willing to take a job where he'd be flying it almost daily soon?

gipple 09-08-2019 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2883400)
Yes but doesn't it bolster his motive that he thought it was completely safe, so much so he was willing to take a job where he'd be flying it almost daily soon?

I don’t think he was hired or had intentions of flying much of anything. Another seagull.

Winston 10-18-2019 04:22 PM

More Forkner:

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/explosive-text-messages-reveal-boeing-knew-of-mcas-aggression-in-2016-and-misled-faa/

Liberty 10-19-2019 03:30 PM

...ughhh....

Beech Dude 10-20-2019 01:57 PM

Black mark turning into a streak...

Akutan Bandit 10-22-2019 10:58 AM

I hope that guy is going to prison.......wait, what's his seniority number?

busdriver12 11-12-2019 01:51 PM

Curious if this pilot is flying the line or working some sort of special project related to the max?

Tough PR situation for Southwest. I wonder how they are dealing with him.

Texasbound 11-12-2019 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Akutan Bandit (Post 2910484)
I hope that guy is going to prison.......wait, what's his seniority number?

Going to prison for what exactly? Dunk texting?

He said “I basically lied to the regulators (unknowingly),”

The other guy says "No, you didn't, we had no idea it behaved like this", and went on to describe how it was behaving for him on approach...

Um, was this a flaps up approach? MCAS does not operate without the flaps up.

These morons were talking about the SIM, the SIM was malfunctioning. It had nothing to do with MCAS.. they later found that out but the news has no interest in reporting that.

When he said "Vince thinks it was MCAS.." Vince was a sim tech, not a test pilot. Neither of the 2 people texting were test pilots. They were technical pilots.


On Friday, in an email to The Seattle Times, Forkner’s lawyer David Gerger defended his client’s part in the message exchange:
“If you read the whole chat, it is obvious that there was no ‘lie’ and the simulator program was not operating properly,” Gerger wrote. “Based on what he was told, Mark thought the plane was safe, and the simulator would be fixed.”
Another person with knowledge of the matter, who also requested anonymity, said Gerger previously provided Boeing with the same general explanation of his client’s comments in the messages. Yet Gerger would not allow Forkner to be questioned by Boeing, this person said.

Grey Goose

Forkner’s exchange with Gustavsson is loose and perhaps boozy.
At the beginning of the exchange, Forkner says, “I’m locked in my hotel room with an ice cold grey goose, I’ll probably fire off a few dozen inappropriate emails before I call it a night.”


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