[VIDEO] CNBC 737 Max-8 SWA analysis
 

Why SWA Is Rethinking Its 737 Strategy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoRPhfARWkg

Fairly good analysis and summary of what’s happened, but let’s face it. SWA can’t just snap their fingers and switch into another aircraft. That would be years down the road, but an acquisition or merger wouldn’t.

Boeing will need to be very nice with SWA for future negociations.

Hawaiian or JetBlue would be my guess, but then again who knows...

Not sure. The only thing I’m sure of is that someone is buying Spirit.

And what makes you sure of that?

My own personal opinion for what that’s worth......which is squat (except to me).

Between those, I hope it’s Hawaiian just because they have such a smaller pilot group

Will be interesting to see WHACK’s take on an SLI if and when an acquisition takes place. We’ll see if he whines for the underdog, even if it means he loses seniority. Any bets?

Regionals add news types in less than a year (Xjt added the e175 in six months from the deal with UAL). If we could focus on being streamlined and not on making it a bigger deal than it needs to be, I’m sure we could get a new type on line in a reasonable time.

That video is way too repetitive!

Bahahaha. You’re dealing with SWA. A new type in less than a year?! That hilarious. Look at all the stuff that’s been in a quagmire because of “tech debt”.

Whatever causes you to lose the most seniority I’m all for. ;)

Brazil doesn’t have a multi year order list.

Agreed. There's really nothing new here....just another journalist trying hard to cobble a story together from a bunch of opinions. APC was probably their primary source! :D

[VIDEO] CNBC 737 Max-8 SWA analysis
 

I think it is a fair take on the current situation. SWA is viewing this as a short term problem and they have a lot of future plans hinging on the Max being back shortly.
Let’s face it, it probably won’t be much longer before it is flying again and this will be ancient history. The airplane is too big to fail. There are too many outstanding orders and too much money riding on its success. Boeing has their fingers deep in not only our government, but many other foreign governments as well.
If you read between the lines on the recent interview from the FAA administrator, he is all but saying that the thing will be approved to fly next quarter.
Will SWA pick a future type from a foreign competitor? Maybe...at least that is what they want Boeing to think.

Somebody is going to snag Spirit, Frontier or JetBlue. The Max Mess is the driver this time. Some carrier that is being hurt seriously by the Max.
If it gets grounded far out again, I bet some carrier is going to take the easy route and pick up an Airbus operator.
Place your bets.
Back in the day, USAir picked off Piedmont after Piedmont picked off Empire and moved into the Northeast. American got AirCal, Reno, TWA. USAir got PSA. Delta got NWA. Just like Delta picked off Northeast long ago. SWA got Morris and AirTran. But you guys are too young to remember that.....
The field is too big once more. The big three need to cull the herd through another round of buyouts.

No doubt buyouts will happen, just wait for another economic downturn. May be earlier than one thinks...

The "Max" will be moot when they follow the president's advice and rebrand the plane as the 737 Ultra and everyone that asks "is this a Max", the airline will say, "No, this is an Ultra".....

History has a way of repeating itself. If I was an airline CEO at the Max carriers or with the FAA/Boeing, I’d be reading “The Electra Story” right now. Interesting parallels.

Fantastic book!

Easier to do with several 175 programs under the roof, copy paste.
Don't think anyone would let WN take a look at a 320 program unless,
hmm...

Wasn’t copy-paste, regionals aren’t sharing programs when they want each other gone, Xjt was on its own. I think some places just have more vision and ambition and fewer people saying no.

However, the point made earlier would be the availability of canairbus orders, and I don’t think the -E2 fits our needs.

Relax guys, the MAX will come back stronger than ever, we'll throw some free points to the folks that don't know any better, and we'll be fine with our all Boeing fleet

Hey troll......you don’t even work for SWA.

He's hilarious. He cares more about our threads and company than his own (Hawaiian). It makes sense to me though. I'd be nervous too.

On another note, I was told that when the Max is cleared to fly that we'll start with taking brand new ones since they should be ready for delivery once all the required training is completed.

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And yet you can not resist from responding to every single post....

BTW, how many regional posts you gonna include yourself in on? I mean you don't work at any of them so :rolleyes:

I get it, it wasn't that long ago you were flying the 175 or -900 or whatever they fly nowadays...

31 outta 71 posts on the one HA thread are from SWA pilots... should we just start a sub forum over there for y'all ?

No need. It’ll work itself out pretty soon :)

Hey genius...you mean the 31 posts discussing...drum roll.........................Southwest Airlines?

You're special.

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The regionals obviously don’t share but the mainline does when the want another Rj program up and running with minimal delay.

As opposed to? 😂

As opposed to getting our planes out of the desert

Program manager made that exact statement in recurrent last month.

Yes. Boeing wants to clear their backlog before working on the parked planes. Plus I imagine they want their parking lots back

The new planes will have the updates factory-installed and test flown when we pick them up. That gives our guys time to update and test the planes in the desert while the new deliveries start flying, per recurrent recently.

it'll all be happening at the same time and very quickly i suspect. They'll be having one of their own supervise groups of any a&p's they can find to get these things flying again quickly

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/20/boei...ax-planes.html

SWAPA is now suing Boeing over the whole MAX debacle, claim they (Boeing) "rushed" so that Boeing would stay competitive in the narrowbody market. Wonder how this is gonna play out. One of the reasons MCAS was installed was to try to make the aircraft as close to flying a NG model as possible to keep the same type. In highsight I think Boeing would have lost less money had they just let the regulators designate it as a new type rather than try to force it to fly like a NG. Like Ted Strkyer in Airplane said, "Its an entirely different kind of flying. Altogether."
But look at it this way, if SWAPA wins the lawsuit, the compensation will be doled out in profit sharing.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ell-unsafe-max