I’ll take you up on that bet. We’ve probably seen the worst and we aren’t furloughing. Once a vaccine approval is even announced, people will start acting differently and more confident. The only thing holding people back is the lack of jobs (which is big, don’t get me wrong), but companies will start hiring again soon. The 3 legacies have way more vulnerabilities.

 

Oh noez, more block time!!!11

This White Knight **** is getting old. No one wants to see our friends on the streets, but at the same time, if I had to choose an airline to be the one left standing, it's going to be the one writing my checks. I'm not sure how that makes me or anyone else full of "glee of potential demise of other airlines". Maybe spend less time being the feelings police and more time shortening that approach briefing.

 

[QUOTE=Jaded N Cynical;3113140]You still live in a glass house. All the glee of potential demise of other airlines is premature, if not in not in bad taste. Carry on corn dog warriors.

p.s. I'll be the one slowing to final approach speed before the outer marker just to make you annoyed.[/QUOTE]


Now that’s funny , who do you think you are hurting more as you **** away more of your company’s money ?

 

I personally don't consider the cost to the company when I'm slowing and configuring for a stabilized approach. But that's just me.

He isn't wrong. WAY too many of our pilots lack even a modicum of empathy towards our fellow aviators. Not even a notion of "but for the grace of god go I". They live in this Fantasyland of "it can never happen here", and "full pay till the last day."

"Keep Dean" is just a slogan on a bag tag but not a call to action for far too many of our pilots.

They are the one-airline wonders who have worked here and no place else. They've never endured furloughs or bankruptcies and are rather impressed with their prescient choice of airline. Not everyone thinks this way - but a vocal minority.

I don't want to lose my job either. I'm not so arrogant as to believe it can't happen here.


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I don't think we'll furlough. This whole thing is gonna be over on November 4 or soon thereafter. It'll be either via a vaccine, or some new study that will show that our numbers were grossly overinflated and we counted people dying *with* and *with presumptive* COVID in the same group as dying *of* COVID, and the former will be far, far higher than the latter thereby lowering our death numbers much lower than they are.

In any case, the virus is gonna have to run its course, and I'm willing to bet that our collective reaction will be studied as one of the largest human blunders and "WTF were we thinking" periods in modern history.

As for Southwest, should the worst happen, I do see them offering another round of VSP's and ExTO's before resorting to furloughs.

 

You should be more worried about United's ability to survive rather than some lame attempt to "annoy" Southwest on final.

 

Agree.

Scientists: Saving face, causing the initial (and arguably justifiable) overreaction to perpetuate ad nauseum
Medical Professionals: At 39K per COVID ICU (CARES Act)...ample incentive to over-represent
Media: Hourly death counts propagating fear, driving ad sales (click bait) through the roof. Ridiculing/cancelling dissenters
Entertainment industry: Mindless condescension/ self-promotion, demanding we stay home/stay safe...from their home gyms
Social Media: Punishing/cancelling/boycotting those failing to fall in line.
Government: Sending fat checks to keep people home, making more than if they were working.
Politicians: All the above, while never letting a crisis go to waste.

 

Amazing lack of self awareness

 

In retrospect, it was naïve to believe the common good would take precedence, that wise practices such as protecting the vulnerable would replace ruinous lockdowns and school closures. I failed to recognize how many stood to benefit.

In the end, I believe the initial death count estimates will be exceeded because of Covid,
not the virus, but the Agenda-driven measures taken.

 

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