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Old 08-24-2020, 02:10 PM
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https://www.dallasnews.com/business/...oney-runs-out/

Apparently the future is less than rosy.
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Old 08-24-2020, 02:16 PM
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Exclusive content; can you post the article’s text? Not sure how many are going to get a subscription just to read this article.
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Old 08-24-2020, 02:27 PM
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This map, produced with data from Airline Data Inc., represents all the nonstop routes Southwest planned to operate in October, but cancelled this weekend due to continued weak demand. We are starting to see a seasonal slow down in TSA volumes nationwide, so while this schedule change is likely warranted, it is still shocking to visualize.

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Old 08-24-2020, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnDeere View Post
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/...oney-runs-out/

Apparently the future is less than rosy.
I’m more worried about Spring. We know that demand is way down this fall due to no spectators for sports. That’s huge for us.
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I’m more worried about Spring. We know that demand is way down this fall due to no spectators for sports. That’s huge for us.
After Labor Day, PAX loads always go down, except for Thanksgiving and Christmas. I bet Thanksgiving will reach 1.1 million. Be interesting what will happen in the spring once there is a widely distributed vaccine. Business, especially. And Leisure next summer.
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Old 08-24-2020, 05:13 PM
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Southwest Airlines is cutting 35,000 flights in October when stimulus money runs out

AUGUST 24, 2020Southwest Airlines passengers prepare to check their baggage at Dallas Love Field Airport in Dallas, on Monday, July 20, 2020. (Vernon Bryant/The Dallas Morning News)(Vernon Bryant / Staff Photographer)Southwest Airlines has cut more than a third of all flights from its October schedule, scaling back plans for an aggressive recovery heading into the fall.

Southwest trimmed 36% of its schedule for October with an update published last week. according to an analysis from Dallas-based Airline Data Inc. That includes nearly 35,000 flights nationwide and nearly 35% of its traffic out of hometown Dallas, or about 60 flights a day.

“We are (generally, in 2020) making closer-in decisions on our published flight schedule and have just established a new ‘footing’ for both September and October, with an intention of adding in extra flights on popular routes/times of day where we need to lean-in on our Southwest Promise of keeping middle seats open through at least end of October,” said Southwest spokesman Brad Hawkins in an email.

Southwest is among airlines planning for severe reductions in service as the fall approaches. After federal payroll support grants expire on Oct. 1, airlines will be allowed to lay off employees and cut service to destinations across the country. Without another round of federal stimulus, airlines will have to cut back heavily on expenses to try to reduce multibillion-dollar losses from the COVID-19 pandemic.

But airlines such as Southwest are in a desperate position. Southwest said it will burn through about $20 million of cash a day in the third quarter and its planes will probably only be 30% to 40% full during August.

Crosstown competitor American Airlines, based in Fort Worth, said last week that it plans to drop service to 15 cities in early October when payroll support grants end.

Southwest’s latest cuts include 15 non-stop routes from Dallas Love Field that were previously included on the schedule, including flights from Dallas to Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Portland and Seattle. After the cuts, Southwest is scheduled to fly non-stop to 39 cities in October from Love Field.


Passengers board a Southwest Airlines flight in Seatac, Wash., bound for Denver, Colo., on Aug. 16, 2020.

Southwest has said it will only fill planes to 65% capacity through at least the end of October, giving passengers enough space to leave at least the middle seat open on flights. Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines said last week that it will leave middle seats open through January 2021, while American and Chicago-based United Airlines are not putting capacity restrictions on flights.

Southwest is keeping service to all 89 destinations in the U.S. and is bringing back international service as travel restrictions relax. However, many cities will have fewer routes and destinations than during the summer months, when Southwest had a busier schedule.

Jeff Pelletier, managing director at Airline Data Inc., said Southwest’s cutbacks will come during a critical month for the airline. October is typically a slow month for airline travel and the business travelers that usually come back in early fall will likely be sitting out this year because of the COVID-19 pandemic and the state of the economy.

“The cuts are spread out fairly evenly across the country,” he said. “Dallas has the most cuts of any airport, but there are fewer flights almost everywhere.”

Southwest said last week that it was reducing its overall capacity for August, September and October because of an “inconsistent” recovery for the airline sector, even though it had recently seen an uptick in bookings. However, it didn’t specify the depth of the cuts or what routes would be suspended.

Most of the Love Field routes removed from the October books were ones the company didn’t fly in September and had hoped to add back. Only five routes, those to Columbus, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Pittsburgh and Santa Ana, Calif., were on the schedule for September for flights from Dallas.

And all of those routes will be back on the books for November, when Southwest significantly increases its schedule, both in hopes of a stronger recovery by then as well as adjustments for the typically busy holiday season starting with Thanksgiving.

So far, Southwest has 179 flights a day scheduled at Love Field for the month of November, more than the 152 a day it flew last year, according to Airline Data Inc. December’s schedule is roughly the same number of flights as in December 2019.

Of course, this could all change if Congress passes an extension of the payroll support grants that airlines and unions have been pushing for. An extension would subsidize payrolls through March and give airlines more room to expand schedules.

Southwest CEO Gary Kelly said he has been speaking with lawmakers and supports a bill that extends the previous rules for airlines in exchange for more grants. Those rules include stipulations against layoffs, furloughs, pay cuts, increases in CEO salary and cuts in service.
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SWA published a full schedule for August through December knowing that they would be cutting significantly based on forecast demand. They had to have a starting point and flights for people to book. Look for this pattern to continue until demand increases. It isn't really news for anyone who works here as they communicated it early on.
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Interesting...and if 2.0 gets passed...
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Talking to the gate at RNO and WN is going down to 8 flights a day total in OCT!, down from 20 some departures.
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Talking to the gate at RNO and WN is going down to 8 flights a day total in OCT!, down from 20 some departures.
PDX says 14 flights a day down from 34 (I think she said).
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