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RckyMtHigh 05-07-2022 07:44 AM

We are asking the company to address our deficiencies and it seems they took at least a step in the right direction here. Too little, too late? I don’t know, but it seems that it would make the job at least looking into now. I wouldn't have said that a couple months ago.

AirOverTheLog 05-07-2022 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by Proximity (Post 3418251)
Family? Consider that Southwest training center is a 5am to 1am operation (and could go to 24 hours per day if needed), 363 days per year. And you're going to be junior so...

sounds like fun! Good QOL etc…









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RckyMtHigh 05-07-2022 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Proximity (Post 3418251)
Family? Consider that Southwest training center is a 5am to 1am operation (and could go to 24 hours per day if needed), 363 days per year. And you're going to be junior so...

By that rationale, no one should ever take any job anywhere in the airline world (which may be a valid point).

tallpilot 05-07-2022 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by CaptKak (Post 3418095)
I’d be very careful going for this job. I recommend reading previous posts for sure before you decide to apply. If you want to move to DFW there are a TONZ of better places to instruct and lots of pilot positions. Not trying to burst your bubble but if you are considering FCTI with SWA I’d definitely suggest talking to a few current instructors and at least reading the previous comments from other instructors.

Can you name the better places to instruct in Dallas? FlightSafety or CAE? Both pay less and require more working days each month. American? Pays substantially less.

I think the biggest gripe has been from retired (over 65) instructors, doing it for 'fun,' deciding they don't want to work 20 days each month. Hopefully most of them will be allowed to go part time.

Pay continues to improve and I expect QoL improvements with the next CBA. There are multiple pros and cons to every job. Instructing is a different lifestyle from line flying and a different skill set. Not every pilot will enjoy it or be cut out for it.

avi8er 05-07-2022 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3418647)
Can you name the better places to instruct in Dallas? FlightSafety or CAE? Both pay less and require more working days each month. American? Pays substantially less.

I think the biggest gripe has been from retired (over 65) instructors, doing it for 'fun,' deciding they don't want to work 20 days each month. Hopefully most of them will be allowed to go part time.

Pay continues to improve and I expect QoL improvements with the next CBA. There are multiple pros and cons to every job. Instructing is a different lifestyle from line flying and a different skill set. Not every pilot will enjoy it or be cut out for it.

I thought flight safety and AA both pay better than WN. That’s why we so short on instructors. So that’s not the case?

avi8er 05-07-2022 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3418647)
Can you name the better places to instruct in Dallas? FlightSafety or CAE? Both pay less and require more working days each month. American? Pays substantially less.

I think the biggest gripe has been from retired (over 65) instructors, doing it for 'fun,' deciding they don't want to work 20 days each month. Hopefully most of them will be allowed to go part time.

Pay continues to improve and I expect QoL improvements with the next CBA. There are multiple pros and cons to every job. Instructing is a different lifestyle from line flying and a different skill set. Not every pilot will enjoy it or be cut out for it.

I thought flight safety and AA both pay better than WN. That’s why we so short on instructors. So that’s not the case?

flyguy81 05-08-2022 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by avi8er (Post 3418891)
I thought flight safety and AA both pay better than WN. That’s why we so short on instructors. So that’s not the case?

Got a friend at FSI who said they’ve only been getting 5-6 days off a month lately….and even then…still take calls/emails at home. QOL/benefits may make a small pay cut worth it….

Smooth at FL450 05-09-2022 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by avi8er (Post 3418891)
I thought flight safety and AA both pay better than WN. That’s why we so short on instructors. So that’s not the case?

sounds like maybe that’s changed…

avi8er 05-09-2022 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 3419395)
sounds like maybe that’s changed…

maybe they finally pull their heads out of the sand……

mulcher 05-09-2022 07:52 AM

It has changed and significantly.


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