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727574drvr 05-28-2022 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3422917)
Age 67 solution.

that would help.

Da jet driver 05-09-2023 10:04 PM

Updates on SWA Instructors
 
It has been almost a year since A post about SWA instructor's input on the company!
on the SWA website they are stating $72.24 an hour is this a 2080 hour a job? what could an instructor make a year? in the current world of May 2023.

flyguy81 05-10-2023 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Da jet driver (Post 3634726)
It has been almost a year since A post about SWA instructor's input on the company!
on the SWA website they are stating $72.24 an hour is this a 2080 hour a job? what could an instructor make a year? in the current world of May 2023.

Who knows. They’re throwing signing and retention bonuses at instructors so it’s anyone’s guess what your actual income will be.

SetMCT 05-10-2023 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Da jet driver (Post 3634726)
It has been almost a year since A post about SWA instructor's input on the company!
on the SWA website they are stating $72.24 an hour is this a 2080 hour a job? what could an instructor make a year? in the current world of May 2023.

At the moment its $150k bonus to sign up for 24 months. I hear the work hours are not very desirable but that will happen when they're all leaving.

e6bpilot 05-11-2023 05:28 AM

Two of the big demographics in that job, old retirees and single parents, have no desire to work an abusive schedule at an airline that can't seem to staff a normal schedule. Next time you are in the schoolhouse, ask one of the old codgers how the junior schedules are there.
Given the option between working there to fund my ex wives and declaring bankruptcy Michael Scott style and moving to Thailand to live off my meager savings, I know which one I would choose.

RckyMtHigh 05-11-2023 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by e6bpilot (Post 3635156)
Two of the big demographics in that job, old retirees and single parents, have no desire to work an abusive schedule at an airline that can't seem to staff a normal schedule. Next time you are in the schoolhouse, ask one of the old codgers how the junior schedules are there.
Given the option between working there to fund my ex wives and declaring bankruptcy Michael Scott style and moving to Thailand to live off my meager savings, I know which one I would choose.

Don’t most airlines run an (almost) around the clock sim operation and use a seniority based system where the junior instructors get the bad times? It’s definitely not for me, but is it really uniquely bad to SWA?

Timmay 05-11-2023 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by RckyMtHigh (Post 3635173)
Don’t most airlines run an (almost) around the clock sim operation and use a seniority based system where the junior instructors get the bad times? It’s definitely not for me, but is it really uniquely bad to SWA?

In previous airlines I worked at, the schoolhouse was staffed by line pilots and a few full-timers that teach a few events but we're mainly involved in training development. I don't know how other majors do it, though. Are they like SWA with a labor group of instructors, or are they staffed by the line pilots? I know I wouldn't mind teaching or running CPT's if it paid the same as flying the line.

flyguy81 05-11-2023 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Timmay (Post 3635181)
In previous airlines I worked at, the schoolhouse was staffed by line pilots and a few full-timers that teach a few events but we're mainly involved in training development. I don't know how other majors do it, though. Are they like SWA with a labor group of instructors, or are they staffed by the line pilots? I know I wouldn't mind teaching or running CPT's if it paid the same as flying the line.

We have some Line Pilot Instructor’s that teach some of the ground school lessons and CPT’s. Pretty sure the instructors have scope on sim instruction so what mgt should do is have line guys do everything else…which frees up instructors for SIM only and allows them not to be worked to death.

symbian simian 05-12-2023 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by RckyMtHigh (Post 3635173)
Don’t most airlines run an (almost) around the clock sim operation and use a seniority based system where the junior instructors get the bad times? It’s definitely not for me, but is it really uniquely bad to SWA?

NK. Every instructor is a pilot on the seniority list. No involuntary night SIM for pilots.

e6bpilot 05-12-2023 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by RckyMtHigh (Post 3635173)
Don’t most airlines run an (almost) around the clock sim operation and use a seniority based system where the junior instructors get the bad times? It’s definitely not for me, but is it really uniquely bad to SWA?

SWA is constantly undermanned right now leading to open sim blocks that cannot be covered. Pretty much anyone who is new there is considering their other, better options across town. They had opened it up to part timers, but from what I understand they closed that off as well. When all the junior guys are leaving, the senior guys become the junior guys for all intents and purposes. It takes 6 months to get a new sim instructor on the line. Talk to people who work there or have just quit. It is a slave ship.


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