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Originally Posted by avi8er (Post 3415495)

100 isn’t too far off from 108. How about just the monthly min. 89 TFP

Its actually 88TFP.

I caveat this by saying I have no business training whatsoever, but this stinks of tribalism… eliminating premium.

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Originally Posted by rightseat (Post 3416305)

It is imperative that we keep our eyes on what other airlines are doing in terms of contract renewal. Personally, I could care less what the the current 737 or 787 contract rates are at other carriers. I am a lot more concerned with what their next contract rate will be.

I think which ever airline of the big 4 signs first is not only going to set the bar for pay rates, work rules, LTD, inflation protection and healthcare, but be at a huge disadvantage. The benefactors are going to be the pilots of the other carriers. I have no problem delaying to let another carrier go first.

I think we should be aggressive in pursuing all avenues to move toward a contract, but I really do not want Southwest to be the first to sign. However, we need to be in position to leverage everything we have immediately following that signature.

need a like button!

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Originally Posted by Noconcessions (Post 3418238)

Only 16% of us voted NO for the current contract. That means 84% are happy with a lagging product. We have had opportunity to leverage, but chose not to. Short sightedness brings about a lagging contract. Somewhere, the sights have to be lifted.

This, in a nutshell, is exactly why we've lagged the industry for decades.

The last contract was even worse in that respect. On top of that, we ratified 19 side letters to that turd, several of which were done DURING Section 6 "negotiations". All benefited the company, and not only did we not get anything in exchange for them, not one of them benefitted the pilot group in any measurable way. Several actually hurt us, not to mention squandering what little leverage we had, for less than nothing.

Yet, in every case, the majority couldn't wait to hit that YES! button.

It was truly surreal to witness.

Fingers crossed that more eyes are open, and the Kool Aid has been diluted these days.......