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Crockrocket95 09-20-2022 02:51 AM


Originally Posted by Fly4FunAA (Post 3497682)
Has anyone else gotten their pay messed up by the company? I might actually have to file a grievance because they short changed me quite a decent amount. This is unacceptable. And honestly makes me want to leave for Delta

Thats what makes you want to leave for Delta?

Tankerhead 09-20-2022 05:05 AM

No kidding. That would be about number 25 on an easily compiled list of 75 to 100 reasons for a new guy to show this place his middle finger.

Mozam 09-20-2022 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by Timmay (Post 3497713)
I'm glad this worked out for you. Truly. But I worry about how many people come online to a forum for help first before reaching out to the resources available to us.


Some are naïve to the fact of how low a company will go and steal from the employees.

hoover 09-20-2022 08:16 AM

I cant remember of it was Casey or Jody who said it but if anything happens at work call SWAPA. If anything happens at home call swapa

Fly4FunAA 09-20-2022 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Crockrocket95 (Post 3497714)
Thats what makes you want to leave for Delta?

Yeah. Stealing from employees pay…yeah that’s an UNSAT

Poppapimp 09-20-2022 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Fly4FunAA (Post 3497892)
Yeah. Stealing from employees pay…yeah that’s an UNSAT

Unsat is right. I get the feeling the OP was not suggesting otherwise. Perhaps they were implying that there are already numerous reasons why one might consider such a move.

Fly4FunAA 09-20-2022 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Timmay (Post 3497713)
I'm glad this worked out for you. Truly. But I worry about how many people come online to a forum for help first before reaching out to the resources available to us.

This forum is a resource. I’d rather come to a forum/groupme/WhatsApp/group text/ etc and hash out any questions first before going to an official source.

That way when I approach an official source I have a more put together plan.

Gooch 09-20-2022 09:34 AM

Hello, interviewing soon. Considering multiple factors. Tracking the pay scale on APC for SWA. Question: what’s a safe guesstimate for year 1 pay on reserve without picking up any open time or factoring in junior mans and decreased winter flying. Trying to use a conservative number. Based on APC rates, not sure if it’d be a wash or break even being a FO there for the next 8 years. Thanks in advance.

edit: not sure if it’d be a smart move with a recession

at6d 09-20-2022 10:19 AM

$90,924 based on 100 TFP per month. Getting hired at any airline during a recession can be a risk.

flyguy81 09-20-2022 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Gooch (Post 3497943)
Hello, interviewing soon. Considering multiple factors. Tracking the pay scale on APC for SWA. Question: what’s a safe guesstimate for year 1 pay on reserve without picking up any open time or factoring in junior mans and decreased winter flying. Trying to use a conservative number. Based on APC rates, not sure if it’d be a wash or break even being a FO there for the next 8 years. Thanks in advance.

edit: not sure if it’d be a smart move with a recession


Plan on around $100k. You can easily do way better.

I made $170k yr 2 and that was back in 2017. Pay rates are quite a bit higher now due to COLA increases.

Far as recessions go….I’d rather be here than anywhere else.


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