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pangolin 01-14-2023 08:23 PM
So not helping can result in a lawsuit too. Or impatience. Can’t comment on the actual facts. But this certainly was preventable.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2022/07/11/florida-woman-sues-southwest-airlines-after-she-was-paralyzed-in-wheelchair-accident/?outputType=amp

BobbyLeeSwagger 01-14-2023 08:44 PM
Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3571628)
So not helping can result in a lawsuit too. Or impatience. Can’t comment on the actual facts. But this certainly was preventable.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2022/07/11/florida-woman-sues-southwest-airlines-after-she-was-paralyzed-in-wheelchair-accident/?outputType=amp
"The lawsuit claims Southwest should have warned the woman about dangerous conditions on the jet bridge and provided proper training to employees for helping passengers with wheelchairs."

G2 provides the training, carries the liability, has the insurance. Not the pilots.

hoover 01-14-2023 08:49 PM
I ride around a lot on other carriers. No one has more wheel chairs than sw. It's almost 10 fold. Idk why but sw has so many more wheel chairs

CA1900 01-14-2023 09:16 PM
Originally Posted by hoover (Post 3571636)
I ride around a lot on other carriers. No one has more wheel chairs than sw. It's almost 10 fold. Idk why but sw has so many more wheel chairs
I'm sure it's because of the lack of assigned seating. Fake a disability and you get to pre-board, and get your pick of seats ahead of the crowd without buying an upgraded position. Every flight I see several wheelchair attendants leaving with empty chairs after the flight unloads, as these passengers that needed wheelchairs to get down the jetway are somehow able to walk back up completely unassisted at the end of the flight. It's a jetway miracle!

at6d 01-14-2023 10:45 PM
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It’s this for sure.

WHACKMASTER 01-14-2023 10:50 PM
Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3571617)
Outsider take-

Don't we take on enough liability and career risks as pilots without volunteering for jobs we are not trained or insured to do? Maybe we should have the FAs help out up front while we push wheelchairs around- maybe they can get the APU up and running and bussed up and get the packs configured for the passengers. Let's all just do each other's jobs! What could go wrong!

Don't throw bags. Don't push chairs. Protect your careers.
Amen. Not to mention it degrades our profession. You ever see a KLM of Emirates skipper pushing wheelchairs?

I was hired to fly the plane, not to put my livelihood at risk by a potential lawsuit at a company I know won’t back me up in that event.

WHACKMASTER 01-14-2023 10:52 PM
Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3571624)
Black and white thinking. It’s immature. Use your judgement. I’ll first try to get authorized help. I check if the passenger has a connection. I ask the gate agent. It varies by the situation.
Faulty thinking. It’s immature 🙄. You do you and let the rest of us do us.

DownAndDirty 01-15-2023 11:35 AM
I stopped pushing chairs and doing anything extra after my WARN notice.

CA1900 01-15-2023 11:51 AM
Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3571666)
It’s this for sure.
No question! :D

WHACKMASTER 01-15-2023 11:55 AM
Originally Posted by DownAndDirty (Post 3572010)
I stopped pushing chairs and doing anything extra after my WARN notice.
But, but, but BoJo luvs you dontcha know?


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