I cant tell you how many people i flew with during the pandemic who were salivating over the prospect of one of the legacies folding and SW still standing when the dust settles. When i argued that would result in tens of thousands of pilots out of work i was told some drivel about winners and losers and how thats competition. I was dumbfounded how any pilot could wish ill will on a fellow aviator.

I was disappointed that we werent better than that. I dont know if we have the high ground here.

 

Yup, we're a "special" bunch here at the Trailways......

 

Right?

I know way too many people that work at every other airline. Friends, family etc. I don't want them to be jobless. I don't want to be jobless.

I just want to have a better contract than them (lol moment) and be proud of the place that I work.

 

This is the one that I really struggle with these days.

 

Since we can't put leverage on our respective companies by just leaving for higher salaries like other professions, we need to be somewhat unified in our pattern bargaining. Everyone's SAV votes matter, showing up at each other's picketing matters, shooting down whatever Tumi TAs come along with overwhelming repudiation matters. That's how we move the needle for each other. We are not each others enemies. Leave that to mgmt.

Mgmt would cleary rather lower requirements and award themselves bonuses and promotions than pay you what you're worth. I'll never forget the public gaslighting GK & Ramsey did against you on tv for not taking pay cuts in 2020. "Why can't you just roll over and let us take food of your plate and your kids plates? We need more bonuses on the rebound, duh..."

You guys deserve a BIG pay day, hope you get it.

 

Yep. These forums thrive on schadenfreude.

 

I would argue that senior management should find other employment, specifically those C Suite leeches lavishly rewarding themselves for their criminal incompetence. As for the remaining 60,000 awesome employees…pilots, mechanics, flight attendants, ground ops personnel, etc, they are among the kindest, hardest working professionals I’ve ever interacted with. Time and again, they went out of their way to get me home or to work. I truly hope they get the leadership and Contract they truly deserve.

Too late to delete, you might consider apologizing for such an ignorant statement.

 

…..filler..

 

upvote, filler.

 

No, we don't.

A quote from a SWAPA official in a New York Times article published March 10, 2006 about pilot frustration with the state of the industry in the wake of 9/11 and the ensuing bankruptcies entitled "Airline Pilots Still Flying, but No Longer Quite So High":

Note: the tentacles and ethos of SWAPA 1.0, some of which is reflected in the above quote, still permeate current SWAPA. It's better than it was, but there's still more than a little bit of it there.