We still have Biden for two more years (at least). We should absolutely be looking for a minimum of 20% since termination of the old contract with full retro, plus 8-9% per year through the term if the next contract. Anything less, and we are going backwards.

Anyone who believes the inflation numbers the govt puts out as the price of “your personal inflation rate” is living in fairy tale land. If we don’t hit $350, I will probably be a no, unless they hit all the ancillary stuff like LTD, per diem, parking, uniforms, etc. out of the park. Then I could maybe back it down to $345.

While I support SWAPA, I honestly feel they are not aiming high enough and we will have to give them more leverage by giving the SAV a NO vote and then turn down the first offer they support. Sadly, I think we are still a year out.

The way I look at it is it's a 10 yr contract. Were 3 past amendable, probably another 1 to get there so that's 4 yrs. Itll be a 4 yr contract and then even if we get it done in 2( yeah right) that's 10 yrs right there. 10% a yr is a 100% raise. 10% is not a bad number/yr with crazy inflation now and who knows how long they'll drag out the next one.
didnt the mechanics go 7 yrs before they got a new contract last time. What if they do that to us next. A 100% raise quickly evaporates

All very true. If inflation was still calculated the way that it was in the 70’s, the last time we had this problem, it would be double. Regional pilots have been brought up somewhere in the 45%-65% range. I think that’s realistic. I’ve been so disappointed that major airline unions have failed to factor in inflation when negotiating. At this point a 17%-18% raise is just to get us back where we were. Inflation is currently going up almost 0.5% monthly (based on their numbers).

Delta pilot here, I'd be remiss not to point out that this contract was a QOL contract from surveys, pay was tertiary at best to work rules and other QOL items, there is also a LOT of soft money involved that isn't directly reflected in rates. Holidays pay an extra 5:15 (above guarantee for reserves) for any trip that touches a single minute of the holiday, sit pay, duty period rigs, increased vacation pay and improved accrual etc. Don't sell yourselves short only looking at direct pay rate comparisons.

for all those items you listed, I hope when our TA comes out, they hold back the pay rates for a couple days so we can digest the rest of the details before focusing on the pay scale.

Given the last NC update, I really think it's gonna take a credible threat of a strike to move the needle and SWAPA should be asking the mediator for release after each wasted day.

Bring on SAV.

agreed. We are not close.

Bring on the actual strike. If Dallas continues to refuse to face reality, there’s little hope for the future. At this point I’m ready to sit at home and watch it burn.

It’s also important to note that at this point it is SWAPA’s job to get the SAV passed with as close to 100% yes votes as possible. Even if there were progress we will not hear about it from SWAPA at this time. If we get a great SAV turnout we may then start to hear signs of progress whether political or actual. The company may feel the squeeze even more so if AAL and UAL close out soon.

I think they're waiting to see the results of SAV as it is the biggest test of our resolve thus far. The higher the YES vote and the higher the participation rate, the more likely will they take us seriously and stop with this BS. After all, any potential strike will cost them FAR, FAR, FAR more than it will ever cost us. If the meltdown cost us 1.3 billion... how much would something as controllable as a strike cost?

I think Wall Street will be the one to tell BoJo to settle this before we actually walk off the job...