Fcm135flyer

https://stocks.apple.com/A37qHC5gKQamMbZreq1dJDQ

Just remember that when they say items from C2020 are too expensive.

mulcher

75% will work.

symbian simian

Of all the articles to post proving SWA pilots deserve a raise, this might be the worst.

"When he took over as CEO, Jordan was moving up from an executive vice president position, and the pay hike was part of his promotion. -- Jordan’s total compensation package last year came to $5.3 million, up from $3 million in 2021. His predecessor as CEO, Gary Kelly, received $5.1 million in 2022, serving as CEO in January and executive chairman the rest of the year. That’s down from the $5.8 million Kelly received in 2021 and $9.8 million he received in 2020."

Any FO that upgrades at SWA has gotten a 50% raise.
The answer from SWA management to you saying contract C2020 items aren't too expensive could literally quote this same article, say that the CEO position of SWA took a 45% pay cut since 2020, and you should do the same.

Yes, you should get a hefty raise. But read the article before you post.

loveislost7M8

FU C.K. U PAY ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jC9CbBT33E

Lewbronski

Just to pull even with Delta’s career compensation, 12-yr CA pay needs to come up to north of $400/TFP. That’s just under a 75% raise for a 12-yr CA. For the more junior, and over shorter periods of time, we need more than a 100% raise to pull even with Delta’s compensation.

On that note, though, if one were to try to discern what SWA pilots really care about getting fixed on the next contract from the number of posts and views both here and OTOF, you’d think getting some kind of anti-DEI contractual language would be at the top of the list. I’m not on FB, so maybe it’s different there.

Somebody posted one of the career compensation comparison charts I made OTOF. It quickly sunk to the bottom of the stack of current threads with just a few replies. There has been a little more interest here on APC (but a lot of that interest was in expressing opinions as to why we should NOT get Delta or better career compensation). As data points, which I’m sure the company is observing and incorporating into their stance (they ARE aware of what we all are posting here), that probably tells them we don’t really care that much about career compensation.

pilotrob23

Only rumor I have heard is the $330 a trip. I would love to be a fly on the wall to see where everyone is at with compensation. There are a bunch of things that need to be addressed with this contract. But a good thread to see where people are, or are comfortable with concerning pay rates.

JohnnyTexas

I’ve been impressed with the relative absence of such numbers on the forums. No need to undermine our NC. I saw some guy on a forum today float 295-300 or some such thing. Not helpful imo. Time for that input was during surveys and my number certainly wasn’t 295, closer to Lew’s.

flyguy81

Obv I’ll be looking for disability, work rules, etc but I’d like to see 757-767 rates…wherever that ends up after AA/UAL settle. WB would be fantastic but I doubt that’s on many people’s radar.

Lewbronski

Is it clear to everyone that we have the leverage to achieve a no-kidding “generational” contract?

And by that I mean, we can get everything we are looking for, including Delta++ career compensation.

The RLA does not restrict us, at all, from achieving those things. We are the only thing standing in our way. $330 is way, way, way below what we can achieve.

Privateer89

Remember real vs nominal when calculating pay. Delta voted in an 18% DOS raise when inflation has been over 17% since expiration. They voted in less than a 1% pay raise in real terms. Alaska actually voted in a pay cut in real terms. This at a time when we have more leverage than any time in history! Airlines have already passed these inflationary costs onto customers while we work for old rates.

One more thing to consider is if the fed fails to get back to the 2% inflation target and we’re now looking at 4% or higher for the foreseeable future. Delta’s 4 year deal may leave them at a loss to inflation when it’s over. Not bashing DAL’s contract, just stating that the inflationary environment combined with record pilot demand equals much more than what we’ve seen already.

Roughly $292/Trip would equal DAL 737 rates for us. $330 would be roughly a 26% (9% Real) raise. It still needs to be higher.