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poopooplatter 10-27-2023 06:07 AM

Aircraft Order
 
Was this order talked about in the earnings call/filing, or is this new news. How many are replacement?
Also…did I hear Bob right on CNBC that we are effectively going to shrink for 2024? Ummm. We don’t have retirements here.
We lose growth…we are not going to attract people. Can anyone fill in the nitty-gritty numbers here from the filing?

https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2023-10...g-737-MAX-jets

poopoo out.

Smooth at FL450 10-27-2023 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by poopooplatter (Post 3716163)
Was this order talked about in the earnings call/filing, or is this new news. How many are replacement?
Also…did I hear Bob right on CNBC that we are effectively going to shrink for 2024? Ummm. We don’t have retirements here.
We lose growth…we are not going to attract people. Can anyone fill in the nitty-gritty numbers here from the filing?

https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2023-10...g-737-MAX-jets

poopoo out.

This is what the company said “The Company now expects first quarter 2024 capacity to increase in the range of 10 percent to 12 percent, year-over-year, compared with its previous guidance to increase in the range of 14 percent to 16 percent, year-over-year.” Not sure how that’s interpreted as we are shrinking…but no, we are not. Just slowing growth a few basis points.

and yeah, the aircraft order was effectively announced in the 8-k and subsequent call.

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e6bpilot 10-27-2023 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by poopooplatter (Post 3716163)
Was this order talked about in the earnings call/filing, or is this new news. How many are replacement?
Also…did I hear Bob right on CNBC that we are effectively going to shrink for 2024? Ummm. We don’t have retirements here.
We lose growth…we are not going to attract people. Can anyone fill in the nitty-gritty numbers here from the filing?

https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2023-10...g-737-MAX-jets

poopoo out.

The order came after the earnings call. My bet is that those are largely replacement airframes to get rid of the old 700s since the Max is performing well for fuel numbers.
Also, in typical CEO newspeak, he said we are reducing capacity. What he didn't say is that we are just reducing our forecast growth by a couple of percentage points, not actually shrinking. The guy with his hand up the puppet's butt used to say that every time Wall Street would start getting edgy about overall industry capacity in order to calm people down. Then we would grow anyway.
In other words, it means nothing. Tell the investors what they want to hear and then do what you are going to do anyway. That's how these clowns operate.

Privateer89 10-27-2023 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by poopooplatter (Post 3716163)
Was this order talked about in the earnings call/filing, or is this new news. How many are replacement?
Also…did I hear Bob right on CNBC that we are effectively going to shrink for 2024? Ummm. We don’t have retirements here.
We lose growth…we are not going to attract people. Can anyone fill in the nitty-gritty numbers here from the filing?

https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2023-10...g-737-MAX-jets

poopoo out.

Just moderating growth after the last few years of trying to build back the network after adding 18 new cities during Covid. They said something of taking roughly 70-80 airplanes a year and a 6% annual stable growth rate. Not all doom and gloom like what is going on at spirit, frontier, and JB.

flyguy81 10-27-2023 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Privateer89 (Post 3716220)
Just moderating growth after the last few years of trying to build back the network after adding 18 new cities during Covid. They said something of taking roughly 70-80 airplanes a year and a 6% annual stable growth rate. Not all doom and gloom like what is going on at spirit, frontier, and JB.

Well the order is for -7’s and that plane is a unicorn. I’ll feel better when I’m sitting in it vs staring at an order sheet that may or may not happen.

poopooplatter 10-27-2023 08:32 AM

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Thanks all for the clarification. Just saw the new hire bid for Captain at United…wake up SWA! Better get hungry and savage. We need our mojo back or we go the way of TWA.

Poopoo out.

flyguy81 10-27-2023 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by poopooplatter (Post 3716248)
Thanks all for the clarification. Just saw the new hire bid for Captain at United…wake up SWA! Better get hungry and savage. We need our mojo back or we go the way of TWA.

Poopoo out.

Be curious how many bid street CA or are forced into it.

Grumpyaviator 10-27-2023 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by poopooplatter (Post 3716248)
Thanks all for the clarification. Just saw the new hire bid for Captain at United…wake up SWA! Better get hungry and savage. We need our mojo back or we go the way of TWA.

Poopoo out.

Looks like I might apply as a street captain.

ZapBrannigan 10-27-2023 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 3716260)
Looks like I might apply as a street captain.

But if you leave, who will be here to tell us they’re voting NO? 😉

Grumpyaviator 10-27-2023 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3716272)
But if you leave, who will be here to tell us they’re voting NO? 😉


I’ll designate someone to take up the banner.😁

btw. My vote is NO


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