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Old 11-03-2023 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL
It's been a minute...any one hear what's in the FA's TA?
The SWAPA forum has a thread with quite a few details on it.

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Old 11-03-2023 | 11:17 AM
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They basically traded their NEC for a pay raise and then got the company to dump some of the egregious language in the first TA concerning attendance.
The union put a bonus calculator on their website so the FAs can see what their retro check is.
Word is that it will pass overwhelmingly.
I personally don't care what's in it and find it mildly fascinating that so many pilots care what is in a contract that has zero to do with us, but the above info is the stuff on the other forum.
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Old 11-03-2023 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
They basically traded their NEC for a pay raise and then got the company to dump some of the egregious language in the first TA concerning attendance.
The union put a bonus calculator on their website so the FAs can see what their retro check is.
Word is that it will pass overwhelmingly.
I personally don't care what's in it and find it mildly fascinating that so many pilots care what is in a contract that has zero to do with us, but the above info is the stuff on the other forum.
some of it matters. The 2 extra paid holidays we now know we as pilots will get, at minimum
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Old 11-03-2023 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by golfandflows
some of it matters. The 2 extra paid holidays we now know we as pilots will get, at minimum
are they super bowl Sunday and fathers day?
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Old 11-03-2023 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
They basically traded their NEC for a pay raise and then got the company to dump some of the egregious language in the first TA concerning attendance.
The union put a bonus calculator on their website so the FAs can see what their retro check is.
Word is that it will pass overwhelmingly.
I personally don't care what's in it and find it mildly fascinating that so many pilots care what is in a contract that has zero to do with us, but the above info is the stuff on the other forum.
I was talking to one today who was out on disability and paying Cobra out of pocket. I guess their union doesn’t eat that cost like SWAPA does. So this FA was wanting disability paid by SWA along with being treated like a human instead of a worthless cost widget. They don’t have a me too with OAL’s so being one of the first to settle…they’ll likely end up like we did in 2016 where we were behind the 8 ball from the start.

I think their union is a bunch of catty SWA VP wannabe’s that don’t give a crap about the majority of the FA’s….kind of like SWAPA who sent out TA1.
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Old 11-03-2023 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by golfandflows
some of it matters. The 2 extra paid holidays we now know we as pilots will get, at minimum
Will we, though?
Pretty sure different employee groups have different holidays. I could GAS what is in the FA contract and I certainly don't expect us to "me too" anything they have just like I wouldn't expect them to do it to us. We are two totally different types of employees.
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Old 11-03-2023 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
They basically traded their NEC for a pay raise and then got the company to dump some of the egregious language in the first TA concerning attendance.
The union put a bonus calculator on their website so the FAs can see what their retro check is.
Word is that it will pass overwhelmingly.
I personally don't care what's in it and find it mildly fascinating that so many pilots care what is in a contract that has zero to do with us, but the above info is the stuff on the other forum.
We interact with them for half the month. If they are going to be ****ed off or happy, that's certainly something I care about.
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Old 11-03-2023 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL
We interact with them for half the month. If they are going to be ****ed off or happy, that's certainly something I care about.
If you’re interacting with FAs half the month then you’re doing it wrong.

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Old 11-03-2023 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL
We interact with them for half the month. If they are going to be ****ed off or happy, that's certainly something I care about.
I interact with them as little as possible. Try that.
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Old 11-03-2023 | 07:03 PM
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Deleted…. Just no reason to address this weirdness.
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