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at6d 03-22-2024 02:30 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3783967)
Appreciate you helping to my bills back then. 👍

I was glad to do it!

flat_land_flyer 03-22-2024 06:01 AM

https://www.businesstravelnews.com/T...20media%20call.


This seems like a better target than b9 or nk and only 400 pilots to shuffle into the mix. Seems like a soft target that fits everyones wants. Tin Foil hat off

RJSAviator76 03-22-2024 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by flat_land_flyer (Post 3784191)
https://www.businesstravelnews.com/T...20media%20call.


This seems like a better target than b9 or nk and only 400 pilots to shuffle into the mix. Seems like a soft target that fits everyones wants. Tin Foil hat off

Why? They can't push enough of those planes out to make a difference. Besides, we'd just repaint these planes to send to Delta while keeping their pilots....

Liberty 03-22-2024 06:57 AM

I turned Delta down for SWA. I’m sure I’m not the only one. I used to struggle with and downright regret that decision. A lot! Then, I got stuck between bases and had to commute for a while. Many times, it was on a Delta jumpseat. That experience was really great for me because I never regretted my decision again. It wasn’t a nightmare experience or anything and I appreciated the rides but it was nothing like a SWA flight deck. I’m so happy that I made the choice that I did. Recently, standards evaporated and a multitude of non-competitive, previously unwanted, JV types entered into places while the gates were wide open. Since standards were historically quite competitive, this group thinks they’ve done something amazing. Now, for all the same reasons these guys were never hired in the competitive days, this group is inclined to be a certain class of self-absorbed, mental cases that think far too much of themselves. Far exceeding the renowned stuckupism of the Delta pilot group. The Delta cappies know this and hated to see what happened to their group. Since these new cats can’t possibly fool the long time Delta folks, they’re hanging out on other airline forums trying to hoodwink us that they’re special. Yep, they’re special alright!

shneptar 03-22-2024 08:14 AM

Rumors of Neelman having meetings and hanging w Southwest CEO were a thing at breeze several months ago…he has had great relations with SW since morris. they’d have roughly 30 planes for immediate use, 2 simulators, 2 FTD’s, a new plane every month, and the Egypt air planes. It has to be breeze. An immediate solution on the smaller scale! Easy integration with less than 500 pilots at a new company with majority less than 2 years seniority, staple those pilots in the list and it wouldn’t hurt anyone. Who else can they buy to get A220’s on deck? JetBlue? Yeah right..spirit to get their order book converted to 220’s and wait back of the line and get one plane a month? Or breeze and get roughly 30 planes off the bat..Southwest has no demand for neo’s, they have such a low load factor and what they need is an airplane suited for lower load factor markets..ex a220…they don’t have as many problems as the neo’s gtf’s and have been making drastic improvements on quality over the years.

breeze markets are making money, the charter demand they get is great, point to point markets no one serves. Southwest is losing load factor and money competing with legacies..Just a thought but I think it’s going to be good ol moxy..no wonder the union here has been working so hard for integration merger protections, and constant questions on the RSU’s impact on integration somewhere.

bluespoon 03-22-2024 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by shneptar (Post 3784261)
Rumors of Neelman having meetings and hanging w Southwest CEO were a thing at breeze several months ago…he has had great relations with SW since morris. they’d have roughly 30 planes for immediate use, 2 simulators, 2 FTD’s, a new plane every month, and the Egypt air planes. It has to be breeze. An immediate solution on the smaller scale! Easy integration with less than 500 pilots at a new company with majority less than 2 years seniority, staple those pilots in the list and it wouldn’t hurt anyone. Who else can they buy to get A220’s on deck? JetBlue? Yeah right..spirit to get their order book converted to 220’s and wait back of the line and get one plane a month? Or breeze and get roughly 30 planes off the bat..Southwest has no demand for neo’s, they have such a low load factor and what they need is an airplane suited for lower load factor markets..ex a220…they don’t have as many problems as the neo’s gtf’s and have been making drastic improvements on quality over the years.

breeze markets are making money, the charter demand they get is great, point to point markets no one serves. Southwest is losing load factor and money competing with legacies..Just a thought but I think it’s going to be good ol moxy..no wonder the union here has been working so hard for integration merger protections, and constant questions on the RSU’s impact on integration somewhere.

Day drinking? First they can’t just staple the list. Second, DN already said last week theres no talk of selling to SWA.

Smooth at FL450 03-22-2024 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by bluespoon (Post 3784305)
Day drinking? First they can’t just staple the list. Second, DN already said last week theres no talk of selling to SWA.

lol...i love when comments from poeple who hold SEC regulated posts are taken as factual. What what they do, not what they say.

Clear Right 03-22-2024 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by shneptar (Post 3784261)
Rumors of Neelman having meetings and hanging w Southwest CEO were a thing at breeze several months ago…he has had great relations with SW since morris. they’d have roughly 30 planes for immediate use, 2 simulators, 2 FTD’s, a new plane every month, and the Egypt air planes. It has to be breeze. An immediate solution on the smaller scale! Easy integration with less than 500 pilots at a new company with majority less than 2 years seniority, staple those pilots in the list and it wouldn’t hurt anyone. Who else can they buy to get A220’s on deck? JetBlue? Yeah right..spirit to get their order book converted to 220’s and wait back of the line and get one plane a month? Or breeze and get roughly 30 planes off the bat..Southwest has no demand for neo’s, they have such a low load factor and what they need is an airplane suited for lower load factor markets..ex a220…they don’t have as many problems as the neo’s gtf’s and have been making drastic improvements on quality over the years.

breeze markets are making money, the charter demand they get is great, point to point markets no one serves. Southwest is losing load factor and money competing with legacies..Just a thought but I think it’s going to be good ol moxy..no wonder the union here has been working so hard for integration merger protections, and constant questions on the RSU’s impact on integration somewhere.

I would think there's more of a chance of Neeleman returning/merging w/B6, by the way, JetBlue has 100 firm orders for A220 (+options) and is prioritizing their delivery over the next few years. Just Sayin'

flyguy81 03-22-2024 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by bluespoon (Post 3784305)
Day drinking? First they can’t just staple the list. Second, DN already said last week theres no talk of selling to SWA.

Not a chance in hell of relative seniority when the most sr pilot has 2ish yrs longevity. It’d be DOH or something…they’d all end up bottom of the list somewhere with a seat/equipment lock for _____ years. By the time the lock is up, we’d likely be flying the -7 and they can keep or sell the planes to the highest bidder.

Tenacvols 03-22-2024 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3784195)
Why? They can't push enough of those planes out to make a difference. Besides, we'd just repaint these planes to send to Delta while keeping their pilots....

If we purchase Breeze it's for their certificate and the types on that certificate. No other reason.


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