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Black Coffee 09-24-2024 09:37 AM

Elliott got a peak behing the curtian, and what they saw was frightening. It's what us front line employees call normal ops. I wonder how deep they want to fire "leadership"?

REF 5 09-24-2024 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Black Coffee (Post 3839339)
Elliott got a peak behing the curtian, and what they saw was frightening. It's what us front line employees call normal ops. I wonder how deep they want to fire "leadership"?

Current managements view of the future of SWA is very different from what EM's vision is. To be honest I don't care as long as the airline gets back to a sustainable profitable company. I expect a lot hype with "we have a great plan that will get us back to where we need to be" but I'm pretty confident now that BJ and AW won't be around to watch it play out except as passenger. EM seem's to have most of all institutional investors behind them, hence why GK was bounced. Part 1 begins on Thursday. Part 2 will be election on many new board members. Part 3 will be the firing of BJ and AW. Part 4 will be SWAPA spending millions to protect our CBA as the newbies try to dismantle it, as well as all the other CBA's that SWA just signed.

flyguy81 09-24-2024 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by REF 5 (Post 3839348)
Current managements view of the future of SWA is very different from what EM's vision is. To be honest I don't care as long as the airline gets back to a sustainable profitable company. I expect a lot hype with "we have a great plan that will get us back to where we need to be" but I'm pretty confident now that BJ and AW won't be around to watch it play out except as passenger. EM seem's to have most of all institutional investors behind them, hence why GK was bounced. Part 1 begins on Thursday. Part 2 will be election on many new board members. Part 3 will be the firing of BJ and AW. Part 4 will be SWAPA spending millions to protect our CBA as the newbies try to dismantle it, as well as all the other CBA's that SWA just signed.

I didn’t think AW was on the chopping block. Everyone else was though. They wanted people who had worked elsewhere and weren’t institutionalized SWA employees for 30 years. I think Tom Nealon and AW would be a good #1/2. I don’t know enough about Tammy Romo other than her emails 4x/yr to have an idea over whether or not she needs to take a hike.

We need to cut VP’s like crazy and trim HDQ of the excess personnel that have nothing to do with running a profitable airline.

REF 5 09-24-2024 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by flyguy81 (Post 3839394)
I didn’t think AW was on the chopping block. Everyone else was though. They wanted people who had worked elsewhere and weren’t institutionalized SWA employees for 30 years. I think Tom Nealon and AW would be a good #1/2. I don’t know enough about Tammy Romo other than her emails 4x/yr to have an idea over whether or not she needs to take a hike.

We need to cut VP’s like crazy and trim HDQ of the excess personnel that have nothing to do with running a profitable airline.

Most of the time new CEO’s put their own people in place. Especially in executive positions. Middle management should be worried. Some frontline employee groups should worried also. Their are some jobs here that are unique to SWA. This is the most heavily unionized place. Most other airlines were able to eliminate or transfer some of these jobs through reorganization. We’ll see how it plays out but a new CEO will definitely take the garbage out.

Seems like EM doesn’t even want them to implement anything at all. Don’t waste the money. Hence why they will push the special meeting next month.

e6bpilot 09-24-2024 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by REF 5 (Post 3839348)
Current managements view of the future of SWA is very different from what EM's vision is. To be honest I don't care as long as the airline gets back to a sustainable profitable company. I expect a lot hype with "we have a great plan that will get us back to where we need to be" but I'm pretty confident now that BJ and AW won't be around to watch it play out except as passenger. EM seem's to have most of all institutional investors behind them, hence why GK was bounced. Part 1 begins on Thursday. Part 2 will be election on many new board members. Part 3 will be the firing of BJ and AW. Part 4 will be SWAPA spending millions to protect our CBA as the newbies try to dismantle it, as well as all the other CBA's that SWA just signed.

I agree with this assessment. EM clearly feels that they have the backing of the other investors or they wouldn't be pushing this hard.

I think this is going to end in a profitable and sustainable business, but I also think there is going to be pain in the meantime. Management clearly wants to stick around for another round of annual bonuses. EM is trying to peel the bandaid off. It's an interesting game of chicken to watch. I can't imagine there are too many CEO candidates that want to step into Jordan's role. I wish I could fast forward a year and see how this all plays out instead of watching it in slow motion.

WHACKMASTER 09-24-2024 01:51 PM

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…..filler

Hobbit64 09-24-2024 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by flyguy81 (Post 3839394)
I didn’t think AW was on the chopping block. Everyone else was though. They wanted people who had worked elsewhere and weren’t institutionalized SWA employees for 30 years. I think Tom Nealon and AW would be a good #1/2. I don’t know enough about Tammy Romo other than her emails 4x/yr to have an idea over whether or not she needs to take a hike.

We need to cut VP’s like crazy and trim HDQ of the excess personnel that have nothing to do with running a profitable airline.

I am far from smart on anything higher than my lowly station as a little cog in this machine, but I felt Elliot specifically highlighted AW in their power point presentation as one of the few (if not only) execs who had any airline experience outside of SWA. I took that to mean they wanted to keep him versus other people. I may be wrong, and that is definitely a possibility but I thought AW is the heir apparent for taking the helm.

The upcoming 'OPs Day' will be very interesting for me. I am curious to see the tone from certain HDQ people versus the last few times I was there where they were 'independently' educating us on the management 'common sense side' of things vs. the mean/nasty SWAPA side of contract negotiations. Are we all one big family again?!

flyguy81 09-24-2024 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by Hobbit64 (Post 3839489)
I am far from smart on anything higher than my lowly station as a little cog in this machine, but I felt Elliot specifically highlighted AW in their power point presentation as one of the few (if not only) execs who had any airline experience outside of SWA. I took that to mean they wanted to keep him versus other people. I may be wrong, and that is definitely a possibility but I thought AW is the heir apparent for taking the helm.

The upcoming 'OPs Day' will be very interesting for me. I am curious to see the tone from certain HDQ people versus the last few times I was there where they were 'independently' educating us on the management 'common sense side' of things vs. the mean/nasty SWAPA side of contract negotiations. Are we all one big family again?!

pretty much my take on it as well

Hobbit64 09-24-2024 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by flyguy81 (Post 3839498)
pretty much my take on it as well

Thanks for the sanity check

SlipKid 09-25-2024 04:56 AM

Anyone read SWAPA's email this morning? Losing flights and gates in ATL, with 70 displacements per seat coming in April.

The "difficult decisions" dominoes are starting to fall.

It took nearly 3 decades, but I am starting to get strong feelings of deja vu all over again of previous lives.


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