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AirportJunkie 09-25-2024 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by bluespoon (Post 3839596)
All US domestic products suck unless you can afford first class. The back of United and AA is same as spirit or frontier. The seats are uncomfortable with no leg room. You get crackers and have free movies that nobody wants to watch. Delta is supposed to be the best product, but if you get past the nice dressed crew and shiny logos, it’s the same hollow product. At least WN gives you good leg room.

Thx for the good laugh!

Mozam 09-25-2024 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ (Post 3839606)
Free wifi on Delta. Soon to be free wifi on United via starlink. And trailways has one of the absolute $#itie$+ wifi services in the business. And it isn't free. How can this place be so incompetently short sighted? EVERYONE is completely addicted to their device. This should be the very first thing any company in the business of locking customers away from cell towers does.

Max pay to the last day.


terrible Wi-Fi that WN charges per leg . 16-24 bucks for something that does not work .

Traffic Alert 09-25-2024 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Mozam (Post 3839627)
terrible Wi-Fi that WN charges per leg . 16-24 bucks for something that does not work .

I believe they do this on purpose in order to reduce demand on the system. They know if they gave it away free it would crash the network every leg.

we need to stop being cheap and start offering a great product. the current mgmt is unable to adopt this mindset and must go.

e6bpilot 09-25-2024 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by RckyMtHigh (Post 3839586)
Phase 1 - Buy airline.
Phase 2 - Get rid of it's airplanes and routes.
Phase 3 - Get rid of it's gates and bases.
Phase 4 - ???
Phase 5 - profits!

Nobody has been bought. The writing has been on the wall for ATL since BNA opened. It was either compete against the worlds most formidable competitor in their home turf and continue to get beaten or redeploy that capacity where it will make money. I don't like it because this decision hurts labor and will effect many people personally, but it is what it is.
ATL has been a distressed property since day 1. They have tried to throw various things against the wall to make them stick, but it always gets walked back in the end. You just can't compete against Delta in Atlanta. They won't allow it just like SWA defends its turf in its mega stations. SAN and STL have had more departures than ATL for a while now.

David Puddy 09-25-2024 10:26 AM

Time to buy Breeze, absorb the A220s (and order more) and cancel the 737-7 orders.

WHACKMASTER 09-25-2024 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by David Puddy (Post 3839642)
Time to buy Breeze, absorb the A220s (and order more) and cancel the 737-7 orders.

Shoot……if only.

9thAmendment 09-25-2024 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by bluespoon (Post 3839596)
All US domestic products suck unless you can afford first class. The back of United and AA is same as spirit or frontier. The seats are uncomfortable with no leg room. You get crackers and have free movies that nobody wants to watch. Delta is supposed to be the best product, but if you get past the nice dressed crew and shiny logos, it’s the same hollow product. At least WN gives you good leg room.

The legroom on the -700 sucks just as much as the legacies. I honestly can’t tell a difference.

bluespoon 09-25-2024 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3839616)
False, try to stick with the facts

Obviously you haven’t been back there in a while. It’s just as uncomfortable especially if someone reclines in-front of you, no service other than tiny biscoffs plus you have the former spirit flyers back there too. Almost no difference.

RckyMtHigh 09-25-2024 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by e6bpilot (Post 3839638)
Nobody has been bought. The writing has been on the wall for ATL since BNA opened. It was either compete against the worlds most formidable competitor in their home turf and continue to get beaten or redeploy that capacity where it will make money. I don't like it because this decision hurts labor and will effect many people personally, but it is what it is.
ATL has been a distressed property since day 1. They have tried to throw various things against the wall to make them stick, but it always gets walked back in the end. You just can't compete against Delta in Atlanta. They won't allow it just like SWA defends its turf in its mega stations. SAN and STL have had more departures than ATL for a while now.



I was talking about SWA buying AirTran. Now that they're giving up in ATL what is left of that deal?

9thAmendment 09-25-2024 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by RckyMtHigh (Post 3839655)
I was talking about SWA buying AirTran. Now that they're giving up in ATL what is left of that deal?

The robust international network of course!


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