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hoover 01-19-2026 06:09 PM

Far international side letter
 
A side letter will be coming to the pilot group to vote on shortly addressing scope relief for far international.

I believe the company has been creating problems for this exact reason.
Line construction, displacements, JS DH language in order for us to have to negotiate.
Regardless of your position now is the time to contact your reps about your opinion.
I for one will not vote for scope relief. Period.
We've been waiting forever for this type of flying and im not about to give it away. Not for DH/JS relief, lines, or even displacements which affect me personally.
to me those are short term problems that will work there way out with a new type etc.

Liberty 01-19-2026 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 3994307)
A side letter will be coming to the pilot group to vote on shortly addressing scope relief for far international.

I believe the company has been creating problems for this exact reason.
Line construction, displacements, JS DH language in order for us to have to negotiate.
Regardless of your position now is the time to contact your reps about your opinion.
I for one will not vote for scope relief. Period.
We've been waiting forever for this type of flying and im not about to give it away. Not for DH/JS relief, lines, or even displacements which affect me personally.
to me those are short term problems that will work there way out with a new type etc.

That’s what I was saying… the last couple paragraphs of the union letter implied something coming very soon.

hoover 01-19-2026 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Liberty (Post 3994309)
That’s what I was saying… the last couple paragraphs of the union letter implied something coming very soon.

yeah I didn't see it that way at the time but this is what they were referring to.

MatthewAMEL 01-19-2026 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 3994307)
A side letter will be coming to the pilot group to vote on shortly addressing scope relief for far international.

Nah. It's time to 'pay them back' for the -800 side letter. Company wants it FAR more than we do.

at6d 01-19-2026 07:52 PM

Nope and also no.

WHACKMASTER 01-19-2026 10:32 PM

Scope relief?!

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WHACKMASTER 01-19-2026 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 3994307)
A side letter will be coming to the pilot group to vote on shortly addressing scope relief for far international.

I believe the company has been creating problems for this exact reason.
Line construction, displacements, JS DH language in order for us to have to negotiate.
Regardless of your position now is the time to contact your reps about your opinion.
I for one will not vote for scope relief. Period.
We've been waiting forever for this type of flying and im not about to give it away. Not for DH/JS relief, lines, or even displacements which affect me personally.
to me those are short term problems that will work there way out with a new type etc.

Smart man (woman?), (non-binary?). A lot of our problems would work themselves out with a new fleet type, whether that be large or small.

Fly4FunAA 01-19-2026 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL (Post 3994334)
Nah. It's time to 'pay them back' for the -800 side letter. Company wants it FAR more than we do.

Company would try and get us all worked up and then look for a short term relief by getting us to agree to some far international deal to help their cause…smart on them but we can’t fall for that. I’m all for 787s but not at the expense of our quality of life…hopefully we can find a good solution

123AB 01-19-2026 10:47 PM

Thank you for posting this. I’m a firm and absolute no and will start spreading the word to my fellow pilots on the FO side. The importance you’re highlighting is real.

mulcher 01-19-2026 11:26 PM

How swapull sells it will be telling.


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