ALPA loses sub-lease DRC
11-21-2013, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank Rizzo
Can someone please explain to me what kind of leverage SWAPA has when it negotiates with management?
Honest question. It seems like without the threat of a strike/job action, labor has nothing. I don't see SWAPA ever calling a strike and I also don't see the pilots starting any sort of organized grass roots job action. If that's the case, you're forced to accept what management gives you out of the kindness of their heart.
Honest question. It seems like without the threat of a strike/job action, labor has nothing. I don't see SWAPA ever calling a strike and I also don't see the pilots starting any sort of organized grass roots job action. If that's the case, you're forced to accept what management gives you out of the kindness of their heart.
11-21-2013, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank Rizzo
Can someone please explain to me what kind of leverage SWAPA has when it negotiates with management?
Honest question. It seems like without the threat of a strike/job action, labor has nothing. I don't see SWAPA ever calling a strike and I also don't see the pilots starting any sort of organized grass roots job action. If that's the case, you're forced to accept what management gives you out of the kindness of their heart.
Honest question. It seems like without the threat of a strike/job action, labor has nothing. I don't see SWAPA ever calling a strike and I also don't see the pilots starting any sort of organized grass roots job action. If that's the case, you're forced to accept what management gives you out of the kindness of their heart.
That being said, there is no getting around the fact that this relationship is changing for the worse from a labor perspective. SWAPA once enjoyed a constructive relationship where reasonableness and an ability to compromise made for a relationship that signed deals that benefitted both groups. It wasn't necessarily about a winner take all mentality but one that allowed the company to prosper while spreading a reasonable portion of those profits to the very employees that were so instrumental to the company realizing those profits in the first place.
This cozy relationship is to say the very least eroding. The company has most certainly changed the core foundations of their bargaining strategy in my humble opinion. I'm not sure that SWAPA has yet adjusted their strategies to mirror the changed dynamic. It's a sad day, but one that needs to be addressed at a philisofical level from our union.
11-21-2013, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Rizzo
Can someone please explain to me what kind of leverage SWAPA has when it negotiates with management?
Honest question. It seems like without the threat of a strike/job action, labor has nothing. I don't see SWAPA ever calling a strike and I also don't see the pilots starting any sort of organized grass roots job action. If that's the case, you're forced to accept what management gives you out of the kindness of their heart.
Honest question. It seems like without the threat of a strike/job action, labor has nothing. I don't see SWAPA ever calling a strike and I also don't see the pilots starting any sort of organized grass roots job action. If that's the case, you're forced to accept what management gives you out of the kindness of their heart.
11-22-2013, 04:41 AM
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SWAPA pilot group is in no position of ANY kind to do a job action or strike. The leadership of SWAPA is still in the "hope" stage right now. They have gotten as far as "Flatish won't fly" bag tags. Most of the leadership is still in the "if we grow all will be ok". Well Domestically, I think the 737 is pretty much fly's everywhere that can make money for SWA. As far international, their is growth but it's nothing like the growth of the past that SWA has enjoyed. Most of the International cities Airtran currently flies to are vacation spots/seasonal destinations(except MEX). Most of the International cities that SWA will probably go are places that will NOT have many departures per day. Bottom line is International will be a slow growth. SWAPA still believes growth is a given. They need to educate the group that it is not. Look at the Wright Amendment. They plan all this growth of out Love next year but yet no increase in aircraft. No net increase in A/C in 2014.
Work rules are going to become a very important issue. Especially reserve. Junior captains are going to be on reserve for a LONG time. QOL must be addressed if they want a TA to pass. Many SWAPA guys need to take a look long hard look about this as well as fixing the retirement benefits. It lags far behind its peers when it come those issues.
Work rules are going to become a very important issue. Especially reserve. Junior captains are going to be on reserve for a LONG time. QOL must be addressed if they want a TA to pass. Many SWAPA guys need to take a look long hard look about this as well as fixing the retirement benefits. It lags far behind its peers when it come those issues.
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