SL 10 Grievance
 

New ratio of 5.75:1 captains per 737. Looks like some Pre merger Wn fos Could get bypass pay. Interesting to say the least.

From what I read, the bypassed F.O.'s will get captain pay. SWAPA and SWA settled that on 1/1/15 a snapshot of all B-737 aircraft (transitioned or not) will be taken and apply the ratio of 5.75:1 captains per aircraft. Any original SWAPA pilots that had the seniority to hold a captain seat but has not upgraded will receive captain pay.

The SWAPA president needs to put down the bottle and think before typing. Additional gloating at this point does nothing but make the former Airtran pilots want to exit SWAPA and the dues payment that goes with membership.

DFR anyone? I'm certainly paying for more than I'm getting from SWAPA.

ARE YOU PHUCKING KIDDING ME?????!!!!! So the AirTran Cptns that are/have been forced to downgrade take a pay cut and then they pay protect some SW FOs at Cptn pay?! You're joking right?

Someone please explain why I should not be going ballistic right now!

Because it's bad for your heart and besides, there's not a thing you can do about it.

Yeah, well we'll see about that. This is just plain insulting.

I soon as I read the first post
 

Why stir up the pot?

I know now that senior SWA FO's have nothing to complain about.
I would love to be a senior bypassed FO with Quality of life and captain pay. This would imply the most senior FO can make as much as the most senior Captain. WOW.

Funny how SWA needed to keep the AT pilots at AT pay for four years so they could pay for our training from 717 to 737s, and then sublet them to Delta. I guess they needed the money to pay senior FO's captain pay.

So if they take a snap shot 1 Jan 2015 does that mean former AT Capts, now SWA senior FO's who could have held the captain seat on that date should get captain pay too right. Especially if they have been putting gear up and down at SWA. I am sure SWAPA will protect the rights of all its members.:rolleyes:

Whack I hope you computer survives your new frustrations. I can't do it, but I really am beginning to see how you can want to give up.

SWA disaffects 30% of its new guys only to throw money at its 5%ers.
I keep trying to remember its business. It is all the slogans in the hallway at ops telling me how to behave and work and enjoy life when they don't show AT guys the same respect. It would be an interesting world if everyone had perfect integrity. We are all flawed.

Serenity now, SERENITY NOW!!!

Fly safe and keep em moving :D

Woodbourne why flame?
 

Why post that here? SWA has to have some internal message board.
Are you just trying to rub AT guys noses in it?

Not cool, not professional.

Exactly what does this new MOU say? Somehow 5.75 to 1 equates to capturing all AT 737 captain seats?

What's going on exactly?

It's not flame as I am a junior fo. Seeking a remedy for the companys inability to comply with an agreement is a duty of any union. However, this resolution will benefit less people than it will upset; usually you try for the opposite.