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e6bpilot 07-25-2018 09:43 PM

I think all 3 look ok.
Now, if we could somehow get the 60 plus crowd to move away from the white, short sleeved 60’s NASA engineer shirt and to something a little more functional and comfortable (but still ultra professional for you, whack), it would be the biggest QOL hike since they installed the cockpit door.
Military aviators don’t fly in business suits with epaulettes, and yet the public seems to have respect for them.
Lots of corporate guys wear slacks and a polo. I have never seen them being scoffed at in the FBO.

at6d 07-25-2018 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by e6bpilot (Post 2642532)
I think all 3 look ok.
Now, if we could somehow get the 60 plus crowd to move away from the white, short sleeved 60’s NASA engineer shirt and to something a little more functional and comfortable (but still ultra professional for you, whack), it would be the biggest QOL hike since they installed the cockpit door.
Military aviators don’t fly in business suits with epaulettes, and yet the public seems to have respect for them.
Lots of corporate guys wear slacks and a polo. I have never seen them being scoffed at in the FBO.

Many of us corporate guys would also be granted use of the BMW crew cars...but we would routinely drop a few grand in fuel or ramp fees, too.

Our operation required slacks with shirt and company ties. Theory was that our passengers knew what we were paid so...play the part.

Sister company had monogrammed golf shirts/slacks. We were jealous.

tomgoodman 07-26-2018 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by e6bpilot (Post 2642532)
I think all 3 look ok.
Now, if we could somehow get the 60 plus crowd to move away from the white, short sleeved 60’s NASA engineer shirt and to something a little more functional and comfortable (but still ultra professional for you, whack), it would be the biggest QOL hike since they installed the cockpit door.
Military aviators don’t fly in business suits with epaulettes, and yet the public seems to have respect for them.
Lots of corporate guys wear slacks and a polo. I have never seen them being scoffed at in the FBO.

The inspiration for our uniforms was not NASA engineers, but nautical officers on passenger ships. Juan Trippe of PanAm wanted that familiar image, to reassure customers and sell tickets. If you convince Management that a uniform change would be to their economic advantage, then it will happen, but don’t expect them to worry about pilots’ fashion angst. Negotiating capital will be needed.

Zard 07-27-2018 06:12 PM

Pick short sleeves or pick the tie, but don’t have both.

at6d 07-27-2018 08:02 PM

Ha! I’m going short sleeve skinny tie!

badpilot4life 07-28-2018 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2642454)
The Karbon jacket is a *^%+ing joke. It’s hideous and makes us look completely unprofessional. The leather jacket is slightly better. I wouldn’t be caught dead in either.

The blazer is a very polished, professional, NON FUNCTIONAL, and traditional look. Sorry, but I’m old school when it comes to airline pilot attire.

............and yes, the flying public does respect you more if you look and act the part of a professional.



fixed it 4 ya

av8or 07-28-2018 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by flensr (Post 2641942)
Real pilots wear leather jackets and it looks both cool AND professionally competent. Just look inside any flying magazine.

Or Sporty’s 😉👍🏼😂

Castle Bravo 07-29-2018 07:18 AM

Don't forget the fur collar, and patches to announce how many ILS landings you have.

gipple 07-29-2018 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 2642805)
The inspiration for our uniforms was not NASA engineers, but nautical officers on passenger ships. Juan Trippe of PanAm wanted that familiar image, to reassure customers and sell tickets. If you convince Management that a uniform change would be to their economic advantage, then it will happen, but don’t expect them to worry about pilots’ fashion angst. Negotiating capital will be needed.

Well, since the first passenger aircraft were flying BOATS, it made sense.

I will wear the blazer out of professionalism and if the temps are higher than 45. Below that, and the sacrificial cow makes an appearance because it is functional.
The karbon jacket is flat out gay....not that there is anything wrong with that.

ipdanno 08-03-2018 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 2643838)
Ha! I’m going short sleeve skinny tie!

Just don't go skinny pants!


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