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ZapBrannigan 04-17-2017 05:56 AM

I got the type 12 years earlier flying 300s and 400s for another airline. Didn't cost me anything out of pocket. Don't think it made a difference.


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hoover 04-17-2017 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by AF2Navy (Post 2344726)
What does sw do differently from anyone else?

The hardest for me was the pilot flying centric calls. Meaning instead of PM saying positive rate and then PF saying gear up, opps landing gear up, the PF tells the PM what to do and leads the call outs. The call outs are different. Some focus on little things that others don't do that people get wrapped around the axles trying to remember to do rather than fly the plane.
I thought training did a good job and will definitely use any and all resources to get people through. Some might need a little extra and that's ok.

e6bpilot 04-17-2017 07:27 AM

SWA has its little quirks in the way it does things for sure. Some of the stuff is rooted in the old days and just won't change until some of the codgers leave. For the most part, though, I find everyone to be pretty standardized and I think the new training pipeline has added a lot of value to new hire training vs the old check in the block system that we had a couple of years ago.
There was a bubble of training failures right after the type requirement went away. That has subsided and failures are really low. Bottom line - if you put out a minimal amount of effort and study the stuff you know you need to, you will do just fine. If you struggle and want to be here, you will get the help you need.

Proximity 04-17-2017 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by e6bpilot (Post 2344865)
There was a bubble of training failures right after the type requirement went away.

Late last year they changed the program, finally recognizing that doing things likw teaching systems in three days was not effective. To be fair, this was the legacy of everyone coming in with a type, and they are putting quite a bit of effort and money into making training better.

ZapBrannigan 04-17-2017 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Proximity (Post 2344908)
teaching systems in three days was not effective.


They taught systems? [emoji848]


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at6d 04-17-2017 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by GatorHog (Post 2344477)
So in a very short amount of time Southwest has gone from "you must have the type" to "please don't have the type". Wow. Starting to think I should just conveniently forget to list my type rating. (Kidding)

As a matter of fact, there have been times in the past where candidates were required to be typed to interview, not required to be typed to interview (but then have to get it once the job was offered), to type not required but preferred, to not required.

In my opinion, just over a year ago we were still filling classes with many typed pilots. The actual 737 class time was more like a recurrent course, which made it tougher for the non-type folks.

Since then, the numbers are opposite and the ground school has been changed to try and better accommodate non-typed pilots.

To say that typed pilots are a problem isn't accurate--it's a combination of factors, more accurately a dynamic shift in training requirements.

I was typed at United, and yes SWA does things a little differently from them. Each airline does--but it doesn't change the way the airplane works.

GatorHog 04-17-2017 06:16 PM

Fortunately (?) I did the type on the NG, but not sure if that matters to SWA or not. But no time in type. As a low time mil guy I did it for several reasons: targeting SWA, combo with getting my ATP, GI Bill paid for it, thought it would be fun (and it was!), check another container on the app to make the computers happy, etc. It would stink if my intent of showing SWA my interest ended up backfiring, but I have to take Rocky at his word that it's still looked upon favorably. I'll be at the job fair in Dallas this Saturday; hopefully get positive feedback from the recruiter about it.

WarEagle1 04-17-2017 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by GatorHog (Post 2345268)
Fortunately (?) I did the type on the NG, but not sure if that matters to SWA or not. But no time in type. As a low time mil guy I did it for several reasons: targeting SWA, combo with getting my ATP, GI Bill paid for it, thought it would be fun (and it was!), check another container on the app to make the computers happy, etc. It would stink if my intent of showing SWA my interest ended up backfiring, but I have to take Rocky at his word that it's still looked upon favorably. I'll be at the job fair in Dallas this Saturday; hopefully get positive feedback from the recruiter about it.


Morning or afternoon? Maybe I'll see you there. Afternoon for me. Live in the Dallas suburbs so driving in.

Onetwogo 04-23-2017 01:44 AM

I got about 1,000 hrs on type still current, would I be a candidate?

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