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Originally Posted by Timeismoney
(Post 2314135)
We can have all of that without PBS. Look at SWA. We my not have their route structure now but we will eventually with the planes in order. Cancellations are up, hiring is getting tough and guys are leaving more than ever. We are in the perfect hiring environment. We DO NOT have to concede PBS. Stay tough, don't answer your phone and fly your line. It's hard to pass up premium trips I know. I passed on two JA's this week already but they cancelled 16 fights yesterday and three already this morning. They can't keep this up going into the spring break and summer season. If we all stay the course and the union cranks up the pressure and non management pilots stop working for free, management will have to deal and pbs won't be a factor.
We all did great to let the NC know about being unhappy about the progress of negotiations. we should let all our co workers know that we are all in this together. Pass it along, this is the perfect time to put the breaks on! NC will give management our economic proposal on the 13th. They will come back in April with a response. I bet they will play ball between now and then if cancellations continue to increase and guys don't answer the phone!!! |
Originally Posted by Timeismoney
(Post 2314141)
We all did great to let the NC know about being unhappy about the progress of negotiations. we should let all our co workers know that we are all in this together. Pass it along, this is the perfect time to put the breaks on! NC will give management our economic proposal on the 13th. They will come back in April with a response. I bet they will play ball between now and then if cancellations continue to increase and guys don't answer the phone!!!
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
(Post 2313798)
The same way Delta, United, and AA do....With industry standard pay rates and retirement.
You don't have to surrender having a decent lifestyle just for a mainline paycheck when you can realistically have both if you find your sack and stand your ground... |
Originally Posted by threeighteen
(Post 2314294)
Once you sell your QOL to catch up with DL, UA, and AA, they'll just leave you in the dust again. Then what?
You don't have to surrender having a decent lifestyle just for a mainline paycheck when you can realistically have both if you find your sack and stand your ground... |
That's true. If we mimic DL contract. Why stay at spirit. Might as well just go to DL or UA or AA. Widebodies. Intl' layovers. Massive retirements. Growth. More bases. Stable mature company. No brainer to still leave. Any FO would be dumb not to. Spirit needs an incentive. Better than DL since we don't offer what they do (as mentioned above). We'd have to offer more so guys will stay and new pilots will choose Spirit over DL if offered both.
It's going to take more than high fives and a "fit fleet" of parked NEOs |
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