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Our future looks bright (Yellow, that is)
I was looking at the Investor Presentation published today. It seems they got rid of "juniority" as a cost savings plan (no more revolving door?). Also, the aircraft orders seemed interesting. They want 15-18.5% growth until 2021, then 10% beyond. They see 125 aircraft needed from 2021-2026, as well as more planes by 2019. I ran the #s. 15% growth should be:
end of 2017: 110 end of 2018: 126 end of 2019: 145 end of 2020: 166 end of 2021: 191 end of 2026: 316 that's 15% year over year, plus 125 from 2021-2026. We'd need 31 more orders between now and 2021. At 16 pilots/plane (PBS will diminish this need slightly, and YES it will come :(), we should be ~3000 pilots by 2021, ~5000 by 2026 Now if we could only make a decent wage, people might actually want to come here/stay here! Quick upgrade doesn't mean squat if you make less than 2-3 year FOs everywhere else. Now....who wants to invest???? |
Originally Posted by dfwflyboy
(Post 2313179)
I was looking at the Investor Presentation published today. It seems they got rid of "juniority" as a cost savings plan (no more revolving door?). Also, the aircraft orders seemed interesting. They want 15-18.5% growth until 2021, then 10% beyond. They see 125 aircraft needed from 2021-2026, as well as more planes by 2019. I ran the #s. 15% growth should be:
end of 2017: 110 end of 2018: 126 end of 2019: 145 end of 2020: 166 end of 2021: 191 end of 2026: 316 that's 15% year over year, plus 125 from 2021-2026. We'd need 31 more orders between now and 2021. At 16 pilots/plane (PBS will diminish this need slightly, and YES it will come :(), we should be ~3000 pilots by 2021, ~5000 by 2026 Now if we could only make a decent wage, people might actually want to come here/stay here! Quick upgrade doesn't mean squat if you make less than 2-3 year FOs everywhere else. Now....who wants to invest???? |
They might want to grow like that but they have to pay to recruit and retain pilots and that requires industry standard. They also have to actually make those orders which they haven't.
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If only there was some sort of package deal with about 60 similar airframes, 1,000 typed low-cost pilots, and very little route overlap. Hmmm....
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
(Post 2313321)
If only there was some sort of package deal with about 60 similar airframes, 1,000 typed low-cost pilots, and very little route overlap. Hmmm....
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Originally Posted by dfwflyboy
(Post 2313179)
I was looking at the Investor Presentation published today. It seems they got rid of "juniority" as a cost savings plan (no more revolving door?). Also, the aircraft orders seemed interesting. They want 15-18.5% growth until 2021, then 10% beyond. They see 125 aircraft needed from 2021-2026, as well as more planes by 2019. I ran the #s. 15% growth should be:
end of 2017: 110 end of 2018: 126 end of 2019: 145 end of 2020: 166 end of 2021: 191 end of 2026: 316 that's 15% year over year, plus 125 from 2021-2026. We'd need 31 more orders between now and 2021. At 16 pilots/plane (PBS will diminish this need slightly, and YES it will come :(), we should be ~3000 pilots by 2021, ~5000 by 2026 Now if we could only make a decent wage, people might actually want to come here/stay here! Quick upgrade doesn't mean squat if you make less than 2-3 year FOs everywhere else. Now....who wants to invest???? |
Originally Posted by threeighteen
(Post 2313797)
PBS is coming? Who's going to vote for it? how will you stand a chance of attracting newhires to Spirit if you accept it?
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
(Post 2313797)
PBS is coming? Who's going to vote for it? how will you stand a chance of attracting newhires to Spirit if you accept it?
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
(Post 2313798)
The same way Delta, United, and AA do....With industry standard pay rates and retirement.
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