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When you guys have issues, email the hotel committee so that we don't all have to suffer. Hammering 10am wake-up at the FLL marina is awesome. :mad:

I don't like that hotel personally. It's always noisy day or night. I would prefer the Hyatt long or short.

Email Frank, fatigue, and file your reports. This is the only way things get changed. There are continuous issues with this place but unless crews let the company and hotel committee know there will be no changes.

The Hyatt sucks! Unless you grab a muffin and M&Ms and/or like the free slop they serve sometimes, and slam click in your room. Or you can walk a mile and go to the Ale House through a third world shopping center. I hate that place...

I concur. While the Hilton has it's issues, it's far superior to the Hyatt for the long overnight. Much better dining options, closer to the beach, etc. I went through some serious Laspadas withdrawals when we were stuck at that hell hole down in Hallandale Beach for a year.

Aw man, LaSpadas! I thought I was the only one who knew about this place. Everyone else is so into Duffy's that they don't want to try some out of the way hole in the wall.

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I actually like the FLL long stay. SO nice to be able to run down to the beach. Lots of fresh seafood options close as well...

Yeah, I love LaSpada's. I really missed it while we were at the Beachwalk.

Meat-veg-MEAT!

This^^

Everyone needs to quit their *****in' about the Hilton. The location is awesome, and I'm willing to deal with some of the minor issues. Like RonnyK said, the Hyatt sucks. The only guys that love it are the cheapo slam clickers.

I was only complaining about the actual room location. The hotel itself is good. Just put us in the tower until the construction is finished.

Guess I'm a cheapo slam clicker! You guys are right the location is great. I've only been there 3x but every time it's been loud and noisy. I'm just an old man who wants some sleep :).

Sorry man...I didn't mean for it to come across as a direct attack, it was more about general venting about guys that wish we were at the Hyatt full time.

Nah it's all good, didn't take it that way at all. I've just had bad experiences at the Hilton, but I would take it any day of the week over the Holiday Inn in MCO.

Because nobody asked, and just for fun...here are my top hotels we stay at the the worst we stay out, based on what I think about the hotel and access to things around...according to the pilot whose opinion matters most, me.:D

Best
San Diego
Portland (Crowne Plaza-better location than the other one)
Philly long
Boston long
Seattle


Worst
Denver short
Orlando short
Las Vegas
LA short
Chicago

I would agree with your best hotels.

In the worst category, I would remove Chicago and Las Vegas and add in Atlantic City and Tampa long. The Tampa hotel is in a decent location but it's so loud, there's always something loud going on. In Atlantic City, I like the location, but there's always some pre-teen cheerleading, dance or pep squad convention going on, it's always loud there as well.

Yeah.....I'm just not getting it. Its a wonder pilots are dubbed as a bunch of babies. Some just seem to have the need to complain about something. For the most part, I think we stay at some pretty kick-ass hotels. Maybe I'm just to easy to please. The Hilton is awesome! Like mentioned: close to beach, nice pool area, can stalk Mr. Spielberg on his yacht, great location.

Which does you little to no good when you arrive at 0800, have a van at 1700, have house keeping slamming doors and yelling at each other from three doors down, the drapes won't block the outside light, the a/c won't cool the room, and 500 drunk outbound cruise passengers are heading out the door. There couldn't be a worse redeye day sleep hotel.

Pretty good list. I would add BWI long, LAX long and MSY long to the best list and BOS short to the worst list. Might add MCO long to the worst list as well. Nice hotel but very isolated and not much to do within walking distance. ORD is a pretty sad excuse for a long layover but I don't know that I'd put it in the worst category just because it does function as a pretty good short layover hotel.

The customer service does suck at this hotel, seems we are always such an inconvenience for them, I just repay the attitude to them if I get it.

As far as the room being hot...watch the video and you'll go far in life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9zV4kO_Vtg
It will disable the motion detector on the AC and allow you to drop the cool down to 60 degrees

Fantastic info, I appreciate it!

My usual MO if I'm woken during my rest is to roll over and say, "OK google, call Crew Scheduling, provide my employee number, and say 'fatigue', goodbye." Works great, lasts a long time.

I always ask for a room on one of the 3 sides that doesn't face the road/parking garage. Once I was actually told "oh yeah, we're not supposed to put you there." Usually I'm told to pound sand.

As for ORD hotel... careful what you wish for. I've had downtown overnights in Chicago. You think IAH is bad? Try 90 during rush hour.

So help me if a small minority gets us moved downtown in ord. The rosemont hotel is nice, has a reliable van, many food options and the train is close.

The queens hotel absolutely sucked for long periods of time with no food anywhere. I agree with that move. However the company countered so now there are only 2-4 long NYC overnights and they are not long. 14hrs about with hour long nausea inducing rides both directions. Am I the only one that gets car sick as a passenger in stop and go traffic.

I will have some serious words for anyone wanting a downtown ord hotel.

The Vegas hotel sucks. Not so much because the hotel is bad per say but we are in the middle of the hotel capital of the world and the Hampton Inn is the best they could do? Put us at the MGM Signature. Delta stays there...

Absolutely nothing wrong with the ORD hotel! Great place, easy to get downtown, and you get a warm cookie.

Mmmmmmm cookies......

Question from an outsider, what is long verses short at Spirit? I kinda thought you always stayed at airport vicinity hotels (I know frontier generally does). Out of curiosity, do your FAs get the same? At Xjet, we have a downtown hotel rule for overnights greater than 15 hours, although for some reason it's not honored in every city.

13hrs 45 min overnight (15hrs block in to out). Our hotels are usually pretty nice with some exceptions like vegas. We don't stay with the flight attendants in most places because their hotel language is weak so they stay in dumps. Frontier stays in dumps because they have weak language and the spawn of indigo is exploiting it.

"Hotel facilities shall generally be located at or near the airport. However, any layover scheduled for 15 hours or more block-in to block-out shall be located in a metropolitan area served by that airport or in an alternate location in a mutually agreed upon comparable hotel."

That's the language in the CBA. Most of our long layover hotels are located downtown although there are some exceptions. ORD (Rosemont) and IAH (the Galleria) are two examples that come to mind. Although not located downtown technically, they are nice hotels in good locations that have been signed off on by the hotel committee.

Well I hate the shuttle in ORD. Usually end up having to take a cab because it takes longer than 30 minutes after block to show up. And then the requisite 2 or 3 stops at other hotels on the drive to the airport. It is what it is, I suppose. Dont really care to move, just not one of my favorite hotels.

However I am curious to see these "serious words" you speak of for anyone wanting a downtown ORD.:rolleyes:

Ha. No serious words but I'm gonna be angry and stuff. Lol. I did forget about the stop at the Hilton. That does suck. Van comes on the :20 :40 :00. I don't wait for the FAs and I let the other guy know we need to either walk fast or we can stroll. I've always made it down there in about ten minutes and never waited more than a few minutes. The can is your right and I've used it many places without a second thought but not in ord so far thankfully

Just don't forget to pee, grabs two bottles of water, a meal, freshly charged phone, and saddle up the pack mule for the trip in Houston.

It's a nice hotel that's up to an hour away. Apparently there isn't anything else in the largest city in the second largest state closer to the airport. You know, like Kingwood, Humble, Conroe...

There is actually but they don't want our business. We've tried. Don't shoot the messenger. That's the answer I got when I asked about something in the woodlands area

Being low tier blows.

I would love a downtown Chicago hotel, long van ride or not. It's in our contract, and we should have it.

In my opinion, DFW long is the worst. It's not even close to being downtown, it makes no sense to me.

Oh no. You've done it now...

Prepare for the "strong words" from QOTSA

You were warned!

What hotel(s) do FLL commuters stay in these days?

First year pay? Usually under the I 95 underpass. Jk no idea.

No car sickness but I did knock a tooth loose on the bumpy ride to Livonia once.