Company Award to expelled Pilot
 

So the company is about to give an award to a LAS FO (JL), that was expelled from ALPA for non payment of dues! The other Pilot that shares this dubious status of delinquency is the CP of DFW. Obviously, the DFW CP hasn't been expelled yet, partly because JA (everyone's favorite former MEC Chair) worked out a payment program for him. Unfortunately, he's now delinquent on that also!!!

In other news, the Environmental Committee Chair is the other recipient of an award from the company - something that he's very happy about and has no intention of declining!

Before you attack, these are factual assertions, not opinions or rumors!

Pretend for a moment that the rest of us have no idea what you're talking about and explain a bit more.

The company is having a circle jerk party to hand out awards....like
"The best hair cut from a 1990s Indigo Girls concert goes to...JS"

One award for something like "Pilot of the year" is going to ET, our Environmental Standards Committee Chairman. I would argue he is the main reason why the company has/is doing anything about our fume events. His work is much appreciated. People were wondering if he would accept the award or refuse to attend. I guess he is attending and accepting. If it were me, I would not attend, out of solidarity I could not attend a circle jerk company event. Its his decision and in no way does it change how I feel about the work he has done on behalf of the pilot group.


Now....TS, the DFW CP never paid ALPA dues at Eagle. And I heard he was on a payment plan with ALPA. If he has stopped making payments, he needs to be expelled off the seniority list. Pretty simple it seems like

Maybe he's thinks "Pilot of the year" will help on his resume so he can leave.

Im shocked the pilot of the year award didn't go to the Eastern scab we hired from Miami Air, who needed double the amount of IOE that would get any other person fired from training.

I believe they are handing out two 'pilot of the year' awards.

He strongly considered not going, but in the end elected to attend simply because the award bolsters his credibility as he works with other airlines on this whole fume mitigation project.

But he absolutely cannot stand the idea of a non-dues paying <*redacted to keep mods happy*> also receiving the award.

As far as leaving for greener pastures, ET is here for life. Until the Legacies drop the degree requirement, he's not going anywhere.

If there is ANY one pilot here that deserves this award, it's certainly him. He's done a lot behind the scenes that 99% of the group won't hear about.

Hell, we still have Captains here who think this whole "fume event" thing is all made-up hogwash; one even told me, and I quote, "It's not fumes! It's just a little oil getting into the packs!"

Congrats ET.

Also, the SCAB has applied for an instructor position... The bottom keeps getting deeper here!

I'm not ET, but I wouldn't accept the award either. Being in the same room with these criminals is not kosher.

Wait, what?!

I'm the first officer receiving this award.
please fact check a little before making possible damaging comments fellow airmen.
First: I'm receiving an award for playing my ukulele for pax during a gate delay. We should always take care of our pax. This has nothing to do with company or union issues.
Second: the dues I owe amount to $60 and are from a previous airline. The situation is a misunderstanding and is being rectified. I have paid 100% of my spirit union dues!
So again fact check before you start your rants boys.

If we weren't in contract negotiations for two years with no end in sight, and if our pay wasn't close to half of what it should be, I'd applaud you.

But we are, and it is, so I won't. We're never going to get a contract.

RK

Congrats you make more go happen!

Also not sure which TOTD nomination should be. The ukelele or accepting he award from a company that couldn't care less about you

What is a ukalayle(sp)?

Do you have to play (use) this 'youkelele' instrument at this awards event?

Fact is you're going to accept a circle jerk award from a company that is holding up pay raises for this entire pilot group, at any cost. You planning on playing your little guitar at the ceremony? Maybe Jyri's favorite song?

Great you take care of the pax, going to that event, at this point, is junk. Plain and simple.

Thanks, I had no idea what was going on. Now I do!

My side hurts! LMFAO! I would ask to go into the witness protection program if I was the FO. Sorry Bro it's just really strange you felt the need to break out your instrument in front of the passengers!! LOL

But...this place is way better than my regional! TOTD! LAS CA's should bizzzzzatch slap you!

Please bring said instrument to the next picket and upcoming strike.

If you did it for the PAX then why are you accepting an award from the company? Tell them you want more money instead.

Ohh, that's a good rumor. Where'd you hear the scab applied and when? Seeing he wasn't even signed off for OE when the last group of instructors interviewed and were hired so I find it hard to believe.

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Nah I'm playin. I'd kill to be able to play the ukulele. I'd use it to slay tail though not soothe our low tier beasts

Embarassing


QUOTE=Jltcraft;2316688]I'm the first officer receiving this award.
please fact check a little before making possible damaging comments fellow airmen.
First: I'm receiving an award for playing my ukulele for pax during a gate delay. We should always take care of our pax. This has nothing to do with company or union issues.
Second: the dues I owe amount to $60 and are from a previous airline. The situation is a misunderstanding and is being rectified. I have paid 100% of my spirit union dues!
So again fact check before you start your rants boys.[/QUOTE]

It's still possible......

How much money do you want to bet that he does not even wear the green lanyard but a company issued lanyard? FB pics prove it.

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From now on if you go above and beyond you shall receive the Golden Ukulele

I'm seriously laughing so hard it hurts...
What a tool!
This is AWESOME!!
Congrats JL!
Hahahahahah!
Did you open your ukelele case so they could throw money in it?

That'll help raise his pay. Bendo probably gave him a direct line to the scheduling Sup for special deals..

Your brother and sister pilots would really appreciate it if you insists on wearing your green lanyard during the photos they are going to take,.... It would do wonders to improve your credibility. Things are really starting to heat up around here and if you don't wear that lanyard everybody is gonna think you're a worthless turd. You apparently agreed to accept the award. You've made you're own bed son, Now you get to lay in it.

There is no doubt in my mind that those who don't wear the lanyard will cross the picket line when the time comes. It's a mindset that few of us will ever understand. When I see the company lanyard I see a future SCAB. To be honest I'll be glad when don't have to wear the hideous things someday but for now I proudly support what it stands for and that's unity. You won't see these turds passing up the pay raise when it comes their way.

Again, someone throwing SCAB around loosely. Nice Minority Report touch to this one.

I'm not worried too much about SCABS crossing the line of we strike. We had ZERO guys cross in 2010 and I think somebody would have to be absolutely out of their friggin mind to try it. Considering some of the psychopaths we have flying jets here I would be afraid every time I started my car.

This is a complete BS statement. You should have at least started with "In my vast experience, I think that..."

Good point. Seems like a bad game plan to me but you never know

Ok pretend I edited for you. Do you understand the context now?
Of course this is merely my opinion. I also think at this point in the negotiations it's not merely a passive act to not wear the lanyard but a statement to the contrary of what they stand for. Yeah it's total group think herd mentality which I normally abhor but that's sort of the whole point of a union I suppose. In my vast experience I think, anyway

First of all, I seriously doubt that this guy got expelled over $60 owed from his days at Mesa. Even if you changed your address several times since then, your base would be known and you would be reachable through the ALPA mechanisms that exist here at Spirit. This one doesn't pass the smell test!

Secondly, given the state of Pilot-management relations that exist here presently, I think that it's poor taste for ET to accept (sorry ET, I know you deserve credit for your hard work, but seriously?). Maybe ALPA can arrange something to recognize his efforts. This is bad judgement on your part.

Both of these guys need to consider the optic and how management will hold you up as examples of good relations, while they stick to the group as a whole.

Or, they could use this platform to make a statement in front of all the yuckety yucks as to how you are but a tiny sampling of the hardworking, professional pilot group here that deserves an industry standard contract. Throw it back in their face and watch them squirm.

An investigation needs to be launched to find out who leaked this confidential information. Was national hacked? Did the membership guy click on a phishing link? Is it an old JA sympathizer buried deep in the organization? All our personal data is in there people... Wake up!