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flensr 03-16-2017 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by DickBurns (Post 2317826)
I'm guessing a number of those ATPs are to foreign pilots that aren't even legal to work here. I didn't the read the article, so I don't know if it says anything about that.

Following NAI model, those "foreign" pilots may soon be flying your routes for new airlines set up under shell corporations on random countries not under US jurisdiction.

We didn't really think it was possible, but... imagine Spirit, but with the company based not in Florida but in a third world country with no aviation oversight and no labor laws. Coming to an airport near you maybe?

NoAccoutrements 03-16-2017 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by flensr (Post 2321880)
Following NAI model, those "foreign" pilots may soon be flying your routes for new airlines set up under shell corporations on random countries not under US jurisdiction.

We didn't really think it was possible, but... imagine Spirit, but with the company based not in Florida but in a third world country with no aviation oversight and no labor laws. Coming to an airport near you maybe?

That sounds just like Florida to me. No wonder they moved HQ down there.

flensr 03-16-2017 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by NoAccoutrements (Post 2321900)
That sounds just like Florida to me. No wonder they moved HQ down there.

Just because everyone was THINKING that, doesn't mean anyone had to actually SAY it :)

screechjet 03-17-2017 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 2321354)
From posters here: FedEx and/or UPS, and UAL have said they have plenty of applicants to fill their needs through about 2019, then they have no idea how they will get enough pilots to fill the slots they are forecasting...

Well, that's a data point we can all take to the bank.

Funny thing. I had a TWA interview scheduled for February, 2000.

Qotsaautopilot 03-17-2017 07:16 PM

So who has done the call to action for not lowering the 1500hr rule? Get it done! Takes less than a minute

Riverside 03-17-2017 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2323107)
So who has done the call to action for not lowering the 1500hr rule? Get it done! Takes less than a minute

I'm going out on a limb and say no. Since no one responded to your other post.

Macjet 03-17-2017 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2323107)
So who has done the call to action for not lowering the 1500hr rule? Get it done! Takes less than a minute

More ALPA initiatives to save the industry while I starve on a substandard contract two years past amendable? Yeah, let me rush on over and get that done....



Yawn.

NoAccoutrements 03-17-2017 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by Macjet (Post 2323135)
More ALPA initiatives to save the industry while I starve on a substandard contract two years past amendable? Yeah, let me rush on over and get that done....



Yawn.

I like your style. When ALPA national acts like they give a hoot about our fight at Spirit, I might be inclined to care about their latest boogeyman issue.

Qotsaautopilot 03-18-2017 05:39 AM

The 1500hr rule affects spirit more than other major airlines. If they are able to lower mins to keep the airline staffed it directly affects our ability to get a contract. Those that pay industry standard are able to be more selective thus while erosion of this rule is still very important it's affects won't be immediately seen by their pilot groups.

It takes less than a minute. You guys can not honestly think that lowering barriers to entry is good for the profession's long term compensation. Be ****ed about our lack of a contract all you want just like I am but this issue is important and your effort to help it is minimal compared to the effect of doing nothing


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