Company no shows negotiations
 

Just like to let you guys know that the company no showed negotiations today (Monday, March 13th). Mediator was there. Nobody from the company bothered to show.
Have fun choking on that gravy, because you can forget about a new contract anytime soon!
BTW, high five for helping out with the latest winter storm!

Time for the strike vote and an office in FLL for a strike center. This session was just the inevitable build up leading to disappointment, company wasn't coming to present or accept an offer on compensation. As Coach Green would say "They were who we thought they were"

Im sure its "With the impending snow storm we needed all upper management hands on deck." Suuuuuuuck It.

Its time, ready to go. Time to start the new phase.

What happens when low tier management no call - no shows? Hopefully the mediator takes it as a big middle finger.

shows there is no deal coming anytime soon. 2 years in and we cant even get sick time done. GMAFB! STRIKE VOTE!!

I doubt she will do anything. Maybe our group will wake up for a change and realize these guys only care about one thing and paying us a fair wage isn't that.

It's aggregate, so them no showing is a plus for us.
They can only pour so much BS into the mediator's coffee mug before it overflows. Also, the longer it takes, the more negatively it reflects on the mediator's ability.

Biggest detriment we have are the FAVORS that some of our colleagues do to go above and beyond and unfortunately they don't subscribe to this Rant Forum.
FLIGHT YOUR LINE AND THE CURRENT CONTRACT, no more no less.

That's refreshing, I can"t believe no one has thought of that until now.

Things are about to get real. Time to take off your stupid alma mater and put on some green. 100 % strike vote is needed.

Is this real


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They bother to show today?

Anyone know?

Rumor is Bendo moseyed in a little after noon.

I heard they no showed again, and Bendo didn't show at all for the second day in a row.

So since company didn't show up...time for the NC to publish their complete proposal to the pilot group (why wait until Friday if there is no one to present it to)....

Give the proposal to the mediator and tell her...call us only when they ready to sign it. Don't waste our time please....have a great week...

Strike!!!!!strike!!!!

Fly only your line and barely that much. I keep running into guys telling me how they're flying 120 credit plus months.

No JA's. No MUP, No releasing from one trip to cover another. Please for the love of our airline. People just stop. Until we get a contract!!!

Sure this is true?

They are trying to **** us off and try to push us to a point where they can say we are doing some illegal job action(by flying the contract)and turn all this on us.

This summer is gonna be a s#%t show because we will be understaffed but somehow they will try and spin it on us. Unless enough bozos take JA's and MUP's to save the world.


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How is not showing to a mediated session not illegal or have consequences?

I agree. How is that bargaining in good faith. One would think you are now at an impasse and able to start a 30 day cooling off period.

The company is probably claiming the NE storm is creating more urgent attention of their time than worrying about a contract for us🤥... and they are being obliged by the mediator... like this is the first storm Spirit has ever dealt with and doesn't know what to do with out our fearless leaders... [emoji849]

Well of course it's always the pilots fault! A friend of mine was in the terminal the other day to hear the cancellation of one of our flights which was blamed on pilots not showing up for work!! Now granted, it could be true yet find it highly unlikely!

The mediator needs to nip this in the butt right now. The company is like a spoiled little child. If there aren't any consequences they will do it again and again. But if discipline is established early they might think twice about doing it again. Just the thought of them doing this is beyond unprofessional.

Anytime they do this it gets added to the list of "why we should get released" and "how the company disrespects the mediator." The more the better the sooner the better.

Meh. The point is mute.

;)

If I wasn't terrified of being banned, I would of used different vocabulary. :)

Ok, I'm down...

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/us...-or-could-have

;)

Really?
If you're going to be a dick, it's OK not Ok.! Public forums arn't for pointing out grammar mistakes. It's to relay or express concerns, frustrations, or ideas. Jesus!

Management is wiretapping our hotel rooms and this chat room. Bad (or sick) guys

Lol!
No need to get panties in a bunch paidp, you left it there hanging, couldn't resist! :D

Open a cold one, chill...

Cheers

(As a sign of peace, I'm gonna leave "arn't" alone...) ;)

Or it's a moo point...:D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YIkJ4BUChxI

Anyone have a creditable update on how negotiations ended yesterday and are going today?

Bendo no showed day one. He went in around 1-2 in the afternoon of day 2. Yesterday we gave them our proposal. Nothing was agreed upon, yet.

I was waiting for a DTW flight about 6 months ago and the gate agent came out of the gateway about 10mins before departure to a long line of awaiting customers and announced that the flight was cancelled because one of the pilots "did not show up to work and could not be located". She then said you'd have to call a 800 # to rebook for tomorrow, wrote that # on a sign and taped to the podium and walked away saying she had another flight to work. Some pax were getting a little indignant and a security guard stood outside the gate area but within site of pax as she left.
I had to ride the bus back to the other terminal so I didn't stick around to see how it played out, but did think it was weird that they would blame a pilot specifically whether it was true or not.

Maybe now the pilots should tell the agents that if a flight cancels it was because the CEO is missing from negotiations and could not be located.

It's okay, the pilot was located...he was in a red brick building on the north side of ATL.

Haha! Let's hope we all can be this fortunate.

I think the union should set up a twitter account and tweet back at all the angry pax that reach out to spirit with complaints. It's a lot of people. Every day.