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In accordance with Section 1.B.2 of the CBA, the MEC was notified late this afternoon of Spirit's intent to enter into an agreement with Miami Air to operate FLL-LBE-FLL tonight and TPA-DTW-TPA tomorrow. The stated reason was they could not complete the scheduled flights as a result of three NEOs out of service and weather delayed operations.


Having a little problem running the Airline???

There is a big difference between not having crews to fill the seats and having three aircraft out of service.

Could be worse, they could have contracted Swift...

You guys need to do some research on Bendo and how he handled the mechanics at northwest. This is suspiciously similar. Not on that scale but the idea.

Still wondering where the management tool part comes from, but yeah, they don't usually have 3 extra planes setting around doing nothing. BF has lowered the utilization, but they aren't going to absorb three aircraft lines with out cancellations AND handle normal MX issues.

So what is it that makes me a management sympathizer? Is it pointing out the millennial entitlement where captains are required to pay for FO expenses while on trips, or pointing out that calling a "choker" on the phone is harassment, or pointing out that trying to organize a NO OT program is illegal? Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's wrong, and doesn't make me a management sympathizer.

Obnoxious, sure, but I still don't see management sympathizer. I don't see any evidence of it in your reply, so as expected, you have nothing.
Accusations with zero evidence - tool. Then again, I guess that's what we do here now.

I was there. Not anywhere near the same. Steenland had scab MX guys in Arizona trained ready to go when our boys walked out the door. The "replacements" showed up and the airline kept flying with scab MX! The Pilots dropped their pants so they could save the "oh mighty pension!!" AFA supported the MX and were willing to walk, not ALPA! :eek:

I'm curious about this story, is there any old link/article one could read up on the particulars of this NWA debacle?

Aaaand he gets 7 mill to do what? Manage? They're called management for a reason. Are they new to the game?
Seems that they're just collecting a check, a big fat one.
Hey Ram, First round it's on me!;)

I know this feels like another kick when we're down but this isn't the first time we've done this guys. North American was contracted 4-5 years ago with 757s to fly fll-lga-fll when we only had 587 and 588 and they were broken.

If we're going to make an issue about it be concerned about our contract language saying they can keep renewing 90 day contracts. That is what's scary.

CODESHARING!!!!!!!!!!! Too

HR Diva here:

I just used this as an example in my HR course I teach.

Northwest spent $100 MM to hire, house and train 1,500 mechanics and 1,100 FA's anticipating a sympathy strike.

I remember reading all about it on a forum US Aviation where all employees participate.

I will be happy to look up the sources, but I found them via Google. Living through it made it easy to Google!

NWA never had that many "replacements" in training. The hotel in AZ got screwed big time during Chapter filing. The Judge clawed back the $300k in hotel money NWA spent. We were never allowed to call them Scabs! The term "replacements" was used. "Ops can you send a replacement to gate 41?" They knew very little about the aircraft and would tell you that openly.

The way I read the language they can do this for 90 days then take 1 day off and start again for another 90. Is there anything stopping them from doing this? If not, this really needs to be addressed for the new scope section.


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This has been the language since the day most of us started here yet I'm running in to many that are surprised it exists. Read and know the contract. It's the only way to make an educated vote on a new one.

I think it's because it happens so rarely no one thinks about it but you're right, it's not an excuse.

Not looking to make excuses.. B.2 is still vaguely written on how the practical application is excercised, definitions Section 2 does not clear anything up either.


Now excuse me I need to brush up on the hostage POW section of our cba

Luckily management hasn't taken any hostages yet this cycle.

The Miami air flight yesterday from tpa-bos had 2 passengers and they were standbys.

True story, really!!

Ummmm what??? Lol

Heard an FO got let-go for a miss commute / sick call while on res. Didn't hear details or get it confirmed.

This is probably the FO who was let go a few weeks ago who called out sick for a reserve assignment, but didnt realize that he needed to call in sick for the last day of reserve as well. They called him for that last day, he was out of position at home, final straw.

From what I was told, he previously had an "oooops" with an aborted takeoff and was on probation still. Also, the person who had to cover his reserve assignment was Teo in DFW..and he was saying how heads would roll over it.

Maybe the same FO that missed a trip because he was on a cruise instead? Might be the same guy...

I respect this FO.

Now the FO can go make more money!! They did him a favor.

Hahahha just made my day

yea Einstein, airlines love seeing that on PRIA records...

oh cool, do they still ask the disposition of your last job on applications now a days?

Know when to stop, clearly that's not what you posted. The guy that got fired will be just fine. People get fired all the time and hired at better jobs. Point is he'll make more money elsewhere with no problem. PRIA only documents issues while in training at 135 and 121 operations. :cool:

Do a little more research on PRIA...
To paraphrase:
Other records pertaining to the individual's performance as a pilot...
any release from employment or resignation, termination, or disqualification with respect to employment.

Also not just 135 or 121 ops.
:cool:

You are correct! "AS A PILOT"! No showing for a trip isn't documented even if terminated on PRIA. Said terminated employee isn't in the cockpit so he's not a pilot and not documented on PRIA. It's clearly spelled out what is and isn't covered in PRIA. Only actions as a pilot, training and flying. Go pull your PRIA and look. Training and FAA action(s) is what's PRIA designed to show the new employer. Getting fired is a topic for the interview.

Don't paraphrase, this is directly from the FAA below.

PRIA requires that a hiring air carrier under 14 CFR parts 121 and 135, or a hiring air operator under 14 CFR part 125, request, receive, and evaluate certain information concerning a pilot/applicant’s training, experience, qualification, and safety background, before allowing that individual to begin service as a pilot with their company.

Ahhh, the "whose stick is bigger" back and forth.

Who cares? This started over what, whether or not the terminated pilot will make more money in a new job?"

Let's agree that we hope he does and end the back and forth to "one up" the other.

Meh nope. I don't think he will make more than we do and I hope he doesn't. First because I hope we get paid soon and I'm sure United or Delta is right around the corner for him seeing as he came to us and got canned.

This made me laugh.