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Old 05-07-2017 | 08:35 AM
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Well this May transition has exposed a lot of cracks in the operation.

With managements false accusations of organized and illegal pilot group work actions, it has been clearly communicated by management that they rely on pilots going above and beyond to make this place run at all. How they draw no correlation between morale and "wanting to go the extra mile" is beyond me.

The way I see it, they would be foolish to try to further beat the group down (beyond wreck-less comments already made by our CEO exposing their true thoughts and feelings about us to investors in public forums knowing we would see them). That would only serve to make the pilots value this company even less in the long term as they bail to other shops also trying to work less in order to free up their schedules to double time it to job fairs, interviews, volunteering and networking opportunities.

The way out of this mess for the company over the long term to shore up the operation is to value the pilot group. In turn they will value the company. I don't mean cost neutral patronizing "high five" type programs that further inflame relations by implying we are children, but where it matters: in the value of a new contract. Fire these "consulting firms" that suggest any of that childish bs works. It doesn't. Not alone anyway. Not with careerist adults. They will see pilots going to the ends of the earth for the passengers and for the well being of the company if they communicate, via a substantive increase in the work agreement, pilot's value to company.

Keep defecating on the pilot group and expect little to nothing other than what is contractually required of them in return as they try to jump from this stinking sinking ship.

No more empty words and high fives.

Contract Now!

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Old 05-07-2017 | 08:52 AM
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Amen!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-07-2017 | 09:00 AM
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I love it! Well said sir!
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Old 05-07-2017 | 09:44 AM
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It's been awefuly quiet from Hdq during the weekend so far. As of 10 minutes ago from ft web 66 cancels, 91 completions, and 51% on time (D0 not dot).
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Old 05-07-2017 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NK Bumble Bee
It's been awefuly quiet from Hdq during the weekend so far. As of 10 minutes ago from ft web 66 cancels, 91 completions, and 51% on time (D0 not dot).
As of a moment ago, we're up to 82 cx'd. High Five! This management team are a fraud and useless.

Live Airline Flight Cancellations Info & Statistics ? FlightAware
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Old 05-07-2017 | 01:04 PM
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I wonder how realistic it for management to say. "We can't have anymore cancelled flights. Here's a TA" with all the transition conflicts and not picking up the phone seems to be the best leverage the pilot group have so far.
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Old 05-07-2017 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
I wonder how realistic it for management to say. "We can't have anymore cancelled flights. Here's a TA" with all the transition conflicts and not picking up the phone seems to be the best leverage the pilot group have so far.


Of course as a natural course of low moral and mr bofo ****ting on us repeatedly on the record. There was NO job action here
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Old 05-07-2017 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NFjt
Of course as a natural course of low moral and mr bofo ****ting on us repeatedly on the record. There was NO job action here
I'm not saying it's a job action. Management blaming us. All I said was, What are the chances management will give us a decent TA, because of this mess that's going on.
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Old 05-07-2017 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
I'm not saying it's a job action. Management blaming us. All I said was, What are the chances management will give us a decent TA, because of this mess that's going on.
Zero chance, if they were that worried they would have called the MEC in and handed us a T/A already
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Old 05-07-2017 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE
Zero chance, if they were that worried they would have called the MEC in and handed us a T/A already
I agree with you but I also think that there is a small chance they could come correct to the table this week. I personally think that one of two scenarios is going to take place.


1, the company will come to the table to try to save a years worth of profit loss in the next 3 months as well as save the stock price and the little customer satisfaction we have gained.

2, they will think they can weather the storm during the busy season and drag this out until we get realeased.
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