Where is Our management?
 

Im not kidding, we have (or had before MAY) almost a BILLION in the bank and we are on a path of self destruction due to our HIGHLY COMPENSATED, HIGHLY INEFFECTIVE MANAGEMENT team?

Where * are they?

Everyday we are canceling more and more and there is ZERO LEADERSHIP from above.

If the meltdown of 2015 Under Baldanza didn't scare you enough to apply elsewhere this Meltdown absolutely should.

The fact they are blaming an INCREDIBLY patient pilot group for this disaster shows their true character.


whatever Goodwill Bobby Vanilla Ice Cream Cone may have had with improving the product/customer service has gone down the drain the past two weeks due to managements inability to do their job.

I am actually waiting around for a call from Scheduling asking for my help but its not coming? What * are they doing down in Mirimar?


Oh................................ thats right............... its easier to blame the Pilots than it is to admit you are in over your head and your **** poor planning finally caught up.


Bendos Patronizing podcast telling us he knows how stressful this is and he cant wait to "give us" a new contract in 3...............2...................1............. .

The reality is the pilot group is smart enough to know there is and never will be a need for a "Job Action" because our management team does a fine job of destroying this place all on their own. Truth be told, I have never worked with a bunch of guys/gals who have always been more than willing to go above and beyond to help this airline grow and succeed. Like that time in 2015 when we helped more than what is required of us and we were basically told by MGMT to * and we could *-, yeah..................remember that?


I have never been more proud to be a Spirit Pilot and its absolutely not because I think or feel that we created this mess but because in the past few weeks we have all come together to check up on each other and make sure we are all doing ok in this really terrible time of our careers.

rant off.....................

If the answer isn't being fired or resigning with their tiny tails between their legs, I don't give two *unicorns* about where they are.

Remember 15!

#neverforget15

I'm sure it's a **** show down there. Sched is probably so focused on rescheduling people that are "on" that they can't even get to ones that are off. Didn't ALPA man phones and help the operation get back on its feet in '15? I'm assuming they are on this time.

You would be correct. Check the latest email from the MEC. Union peeps are helping out in OCC

Couldn't help but listen to Bendos podcast to hear how he explained this week. He pointed out that there was a rumor that the company wants a cost neutral contract and later remarks that it will actually be very expensive (but they need productivity and work rules). Constantly amused that he is refusing to acknowledge that "low teir" and "cost neutral" are right out of Bob's mouth, and not a rumor!

If our Union members are in OCC trying to help them fix the Company designed problems I have no respect for the Union leadership! The company runs to a Judge and gets an TRO and now the Union is in helping the Company? Really. The Company didn't hire enough and can't schedule it's crews. Not my problem. Here comes SPA Union to help save the day.

We have to show good faith in helping fix their problems even though it's not our jobs. Last time it was just the company involved and as we know we got nothing for helping. This time a third party gets to witness that we are the only ones keeping this place running. When it happens again they can't blame us at all.

This judge has no history on 2015 because he didn't care to hear us. Now he has to

Honestly I don't have a ton of issue with being the glue that keeps the operation together within reason but spirit is going to have to compensate for that. Industry standard for industry level of operational support. Rely on the pilots to do your job and it's gonna have to be industry leading. Period

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Helping with the phones does a lot to help in the eyes of the judge with a lawsuit. They aren't picking up flying I guess. Not terrible imo but I'm with b6 so no dog except wanting you guys to get the contract you deserve.

It's a crap sandwich guys we all know. But if you contact your reps or had been able to attend the recent pub events and listened to the lawyers speak you'd have a better handle on what's going on and would be standing behind our leadership.

Management is so far behind the right ball for this summer it's not going to matter and they will have no one else to blame. This was their last card to play against us. It's a shame that negotiations were tabled for next week but we are back at it next month and they will have no excuses and I'm hoping that their operational shortcomings and failed recruitment and pilot retainment is going to simply force their hand into an industry standard agreement.

I'm also not real happy with our leadership cowering to company lawyers. I've never been one to back down and many times it has cost me more monetarily to do what was right with getting only a little in return just to satisfy my own fight or flight syndrome.
I think we have to look at the big picture and realize that in the eye of the NMB, this looks like we are doing the right thing despite who's fault it is.
You know in the end the company always looks like the money grubbing *****s they always do. It was like that last time and they are showing their true colors again.

If my union leadership was helping the company man phones, I'd be the first to start a recall petition ESPECIALLY given the fact that NK treats you guys the way they do. YHGTBFSM.

That's not what the union is doing over in Miramar. 2015 won't be repeated.

They aren't manning phones as far as I know. More like giving free training because spirit didn't want to pay to train that department

I get your disappointment and totally understand your desire to die on the hill you chose, but for good or bad we are a group and as such will rightfully disagree on what should be the best course of action. But having been here since 01 we have always fought the good and smart fight we may not always agree. But Federal court is not a venu that is favorable to our plight and is ruled by judicial precedent. I encourage you to call a rep seek the facts, if you have already then be well brother!

P.S.

And to all the O'Melveny & Meyers trolls on here posting "Pack Sand!"

Smooch!

Gear;)

I reread my post and you may have misunderstood my on the fly, poorly written iPhone post. I was actually saying that as much as I hate the course of action the MEC has taken, in the long run, it is correct. My initial reaction was to want to fight the "Fake News" the company put out and take this to court, but in the end, its only the lawyers that win. We are better off taking the course of action the MEC has chosen and get things back on track and look favorable to the NMB because we all know that the company will show their true colors again.
I do believe what another poster said. The company is getting desperate. Filing a lawsuit was an act of desperation and weakness. I like many others have updated my resume. Too many opportunities to ignore right now.
Thanks for the kind words.

Where is our management....?

According to the investor's page at spirit.com, at the BANK OF AMERICA MERRILL LYNCH 2017 TRANSPORTATION CONFERENCE....May 18th

Weren't negotions canceled this week because management was too busy restoring the operation?

Not sure how I would feel about my union dues paying to support the company operation while being treated like **** during negotiations either. Hopefully it pays off in the long run, but...

Get used to it. They will have excuses all summer long.

Edit: however "recovery of the operation" also includes financial recovery. I.e. The shareholders.

I'm sure they're chilling out and watching the cash flood in. I'm sure the summer will run smooth as silk!!! :p

Where is our management?
Answer:
At Mahogany Corner, enjoying a permanent state of transcendental nirvana while meditating over the image of each one of us having those green lanyards shoved up our anuses.