Strike Vote Challenge
 

What do you guys & gals say to a little Frontier versus Spirit strike vote challenge?

Highest Participation Percentage for eligible pilots wins?

Just for bragging rights, it seems fitting since our votes close at the same time.

May the most p!ssed off pilot group WIN!!!

(Note: I would say highest % in favor but that's a bit of a no-brainer).

Absolutely! It seems our MECs are working pretty close through ALPA National to keep our negotiation timelines and contract proposals inline with one another; perhaps preparing for the most likely merger that either one of our airlines have on the horizon.

One of two unions MUST get the "market rate" contract we're both seeking before that can happen, otherwise it will certainly become more difficult to negotiate a JCBA.

how bout this....you see a merger and we both don't have contract for 3 years

I hate to be optimistic but they have to know if we don't get a contract for another 3 years in this environment that our big yellow boat will sink. Merging 2 angry pilot groups and trying to grow while delaying contracts is an idea that might have worked 5 years ago but not today. With all of the retirements and flow deals now I think the only card NK and F9 will have in the future is pay to keep people from bailing to name brand airlines.

+1000000000000

These managers a short term thinkers because that's all they usually last at their jobs. They don't care about long term issues

it's actually making sense since the nmb is hinting at release after only 2 years of negotiations. do any legal experts know the ramifications of a merger in parlay to contract negotiations? i can't find anything in our playbook----- https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....1m2rcZQF7L.jpg

From our F9 MEC:

"Frontier Pilots:

The MEC is pleased to announce the results of our strike authorization balloting. Voting closed at 800 MDT this morning and the results have been certified by ALPA's Election and Ballot Certification Board. 99 percent of those eligible to vote cast ballots, and of those voting, an incredible 100 percent voted in favor of permitting the MEC to call a strike if the NMB releases us to self-help.



This is an outstanding show of unity and solidarity, and we do not take it lightly. You have placed your faith and trust in us, and we will not let you down in our quest for a market-rate contract. Your support has given us a powerful tool and additional leverage at the bargaining table, where we will be holding two mediation sessions this month. Whether we will have to enter self-help to achieve that goal is up to the NMB, and especially, up to the company."

Wow! Great job f9

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Awesome job F9!

Wow....that's gonna be hard to beat!

Anything from your MEC? I thought your vote was due to close this morning as well.

Crickets...

I'd imagine they are waiting to see how negotiations finish up today to release it.

i heard there were several hanging chads and they have to do a recount..

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I guess you're right! Is it because our results were so "HUGE?"

I made a joke.

email tonight:


Fellow pilots:

The Negotiating Committee continues mediated bargaining in Baltimore. We know you all are anxious for updates and we appreciate your patience as they continue their work into the evening. We will update you as soon as additional information is available.

In Unity,

Your MEC

F9 is the winner. Spirit had 97% participation and 100% yes vote.

We may have won this challenge but it sounds like you guys might be on your way to win the war. I'm waiting for your MEC's proffer of arbitration to be accepted, so you guys can immediately reject it and start the 30-day clock.

Good luck fellas!

Not gonna happen, we are going to get iced.......

This ^^^^, and I am hearing rumors we are going to be on ice till March.

Mass exodus... on ice till march will be the demise of this place... people will be on the first train out regardless

Unless your negotiators were making an unreasonable ask I don't see why your mediation would be iced; that was supposedly the case for HAL guys in the final hours. The company came with a competitive offer that their MEC initially rejected and later accepted after the icing period.

I believe it was the company that came to ALPA with the T/A

I hear management will offer logbook help and interview prep for anyone with greater than 3 year's seniority. They say they're losing their juniority advantage and is hoping people would put their money where their mouth is with this mass exodus bs.

Plus, the more that leave the less retro they'll have to pay. This is good news for all the retro counters out there.

What's your angle man? I'm not gonna accuse you of being management or a labor lawyer. I'm just flat out asking...do you work here? Are you a pilot here or elsewhere? If not have you applied?

If you have a reasonable answer/reason for being here great. Otherwise you are just trolling for kicks. I'm curious.

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Correction: latte sipping, in his parents basement, pajama wearing....troll