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gzsg 10-10-2017 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 2444897)
Wrong, dead wrong. Asking questions and being sick and tired of being paid HALF of what others are making because ALPA wants to play the loosing game of sit around and hope magical things happen does not make me a union buster. It makes me a realist. I get you don't like what I am saying because it doesn't agree with your point of view. But my point of view is that sitting around hoping for something better for another 2 years only to get stuck with the company proposal that has been put in front of us is flat out dumb. On top of while we waste all this time the company continues to get us at a discount and we don't get any retro out of it. So **** and moan all you want but I am not a union buster.

If we all thought like you do we would be sharing rooms at the Motel 6 and flying for minimum wage.

Does Spirit pay less for Airbus parts than the legacy carriers? Jet fuel? Landing fees?

Why would they get to pay less for pilots?

Because of weak sisters like you. Take a deep breath. You hold all the cards. Trust and support your negotiators.

Lincoln Osiris 10-10-2017 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2444912)
If we all thought like you do we would be sharing rooms at the Motel 6 and flying for minimum wage.

Does Spirit pay less for Airbus parts than the legacy carriers? Jet fuel? Landing fees?

Why would they get to pay less for pilots?

Because of weak sisters like you. Take a deep breath. You hold all the cards. Trust and support your negotiators.

Okay mr. regional guy who looks like you haven't even worked a day on the line yet. And if you haven't heard, the mediator bounced. We have no cards.

NKSMCOTAKEOVER 10-11-2017 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2444823)
5. Lincoln Osiris

+1

Company troll pushing hard for the shiiiiittttty proposal. Disregard all posts from Lincoln Osiris.

Lincoln Osiris 10-11-2017 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER (Post 2444956)
+1

Company troll pushing hard for the shiiiiittttty proposal. Disregard all posts from Lincoln Osiris.

I would be more than happy to pm you my company e-mail and employee number. Heck I'll give you my phone number so you can call me as well.

Why i'm trying to prove myself to some fake internet tough guy is beyond me. I'm not pushing anything. I agree its a **** proposal but sitting around conducting phone polls and picketing thinking that this is going to all of a sudden make the company make any sort of move is very naive. Let's be realistic.

Lincoln Osiris 10-11-2017 03:49 AM

Just because I have an opinion that doesn't exactly align with yours doesn't mean I'm some sort of "union buster" or whatever grow up dude.

I like BIG Bus 10-11-2017 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 2444969)
Just because I have an opinion that doesn't exactly align with yours doesn't mean I'm some sort of "union buster" or whatever grow up dude.

Conjectures of your loyalties are not helped by the fact you chose the name of a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude. You are allowed an opinion and can state it anywhere you like. Just realize that your opinion is at diametric odds with your union brothers and sisters, and it's precisely the kind of cancerous attitude that a management troll or "union buster" would try to inject into the Spirit pilot community's psyche. If you are a pilot for Spirit, you need to do a gut check!

Qotsaautopilot 10-11-2017 04:44 AM

Baiting people into negotiating on an internet board coupled with divisive tones is what a union buster would do and that's what landed you on the list. I'm sure you'll start a new screen name and we'll have to feel that one out. See if you make it past post 12.

Squeaky banana 10-11-2017 05:50 AM

The company is desperate to manage expectations. They need a contract and want a 51% yes vote. That's their job. It's our job to make sure we get what we deserve in this round. 99% of the pilots in this group have fought hard, either here or at a prior carrier, and I don't think the trolls will work out this time. But, they are really really trying hard and I will give them that...

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Lincoln Osiris 10-11-2017 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Squeaky banana (Post 2445012)
The company is desperate to manage expectations. They need a contract and want a 51% yes vote. That's their job. It's our job to make sure we get what we deserve in this round. 99% of the pilots in this group have fought hard, either here or at a prior carrier, and I don't think the trolls will work out this time. But, they are really really trying hard and I will give them that...

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See that’s the problem. The company doesn’t “need” a new contract at all. They are continuing to get us at a huge discount and are in no hurry what so ever to get this done.

gzsg 10-11-2017 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 2444916)
Okay mr. regional guy who looks like you haven't even worked a day on the line yet. And if you haven't heard, the mediator bounced. We have no cards.

I'm a Delta captain who has been on strike at Northwest.

I never in my 32 year career have seen a more perfect negotiating environment.

Spirit has an incredible pilot group.

The path to the agreement you deserve is achieved in one way.

100% support for your negotiating committee.

Take a deep breath and support your negotiators. Management is making empty threats. They always do.

They know any inferior agreement will be rejected in MEMRAT by a landslide.


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