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Qotsaautopilot 11-19-2017 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE (Post 2468728)
He knows what fhe rules are, he thinks rhey dont apply to him

If they are really to the point of trying to hire guys without atps then we have all the leverage. Unfortunately the Atl base closure at xjt gave us an influx of experienced pilots otherwise Spirit might have already hit the staffing wall. Remain patient boys. It’s our time. NMB or not Spirit is going to have to get this done and done right. Don’t settle for less than industry standard.

sflpilot 11-20-2017 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Dukeuno (Post 2468679)
It is required. If I had to guess I think he thought they could do what some regionals can do ( for example XJT). They can hire pilots without ATPs, but it’s because they have an approved program to where the pilots come to class, and then go get take their ATP written. Then they come back finish up SIMs and type rides. From what I understand is Spirit has not been approved to do this. I would guess Spirit would probably have to go AQP to get it approved.

How did the testing center for the ATP written allow them to take it without proof of graduation from an approved CTP program?

Dukeuno 11-20-2017 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by sflpilot (Post 2469435)
How did the testing center for the ATP written allow them to take it without proof of graduation from an approved CTP program?

I don’t know the specifics, but I would guess since the FAA signed off on it that XJT ( there are other regionals as well ) would issue a letter that stated so and so has met such requirements to take the ATP written.

sflpilot 11-20-2017 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Dukeuno (Post 2469448)
I don’t know the specifics, but I would guess since the FAA signed off on it that XJT ( there are other regionals as well ) would issue a letter that stated so and so has met such requirements to take the ATP written.

I understand that, but did the spirit guys even get to that point because they have no FAA certification for it?

FML666 11-20-2017 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2468812)
If they are really to the point of trying to hire guys without atps then we have all the leverage. Unfortunately the Atl base closure at xjt gave us an influx of experienced pilots otherwise Spirit might have already hit the staffing wall. Remain patient boys. It’s our time. NMB or not Spirit is going to have to get this done and done right. Don’t settle for less than industry standard.

If they really want to cripple us they should just open an ATL base, that would serve as a huge pacifier for many people.


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