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FU509 01-19-2018 08:48 AM

Junior new hire base?
 
Can't find any current info on which base a new hire can expect to get. Any info would be great. Thank you.

Green Giant 01-19-2018 08:52 AM

ACY.........................

FU509 01-19-2018 09:25 AM

How long for LAS?

Macjet 01-19-2018 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by FU509 (Post 2506629)
How long for LAS?

The junior FO on the February bid packet is a November 6 2017 hire.

Richbv 01-20-2018 07:05 AM

How about FLL? How long?

Qotsaautopilot 01-20-2018 08:23 AM

Just know that there is always a chance this TA may not pass. I wouldn’t assume it will just yet and make a career choice on just yet.

Super EZ E 01-20-2018 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2507240)
Just know that there is always a chance this TA may not pass. I wouldn’t assume it will just yet and make a career choice on just yet.

Really? Junior Captain is ~1100. The numbers make it a Captain contract and it will pass. The senior guys want their $ now. They've already figured out how to take most of the cash. The up grades will slow and the new hires will be stuck on subpar pay. :mad:

UNSUBSCRIBE 01-20-2018 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2507248)
Really? Junior Captain is ~1100. The numbers make it a Captain contract and it will pass. The senior guys want their $ now. They've already figured out how to take most of the cash. The up grades will slow and the new hires will be stuck on subpar pay. :mad:

Then mgmt will have solved nothing because we will still have a hard time filling classes. Not our problem. Cant grow without pilots

flysooner9 01-20-2018 09:07 AM

Anyone have a good grasp on the average time frame from getting an interview phone call to starting class? Trying to judge when i should submit an application if i wanted to start this summer.

UNSUBSCRIBE 01-20-2018 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2507270)
Anyone have a good grasp on the average time frame from getting an interview phone call to starting class? Trying to judge when i should submit an application if i wanted to start this summer.

Lol. Why not apply, see if you get called, then see if you get offered a class then make the decision

flysooner9 01-20-2018 11:06 AM

Because if they want me to start class earlier then June I’d have to turn them down.

Knob123 01-20-2018 11:13 AM

3-4 weeks after your interview until you start class...many times they will call you and ask if you’d like an earlier class.

flysooner9 01-20-2018 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Knob123 (Post 2507348)
3-4 weeks after your interview until you start class...many times they will call you and ask if you’d like an earlier class.

Thanks for the answer.

Fr8Master 01-20-2018 11:37 AM

What does the training footprint look like: Class starts with indoc and ground school?

How many weeks of that until you start SIMs. Are sims started the day after ground school ends?

Does everything take place in FLL?

Silver02ex 01-20-2018 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Fr8Master (Post 2507363)
What does the training footprint look like: Class starts with indoc and ground school?

How many weeks of that until you start SIMs. Are sims started the day after ground school ends?

Does everything take place in FLL?

2 weeks of ground, in that 2 weeks it's CBT. The oral is after about 2 weeks after you start.There is no formal systems class. You learned about systems on your own and doing the briefing before the CSI/FTD. FTD and Sim can be in FLL, DFW or LAS. It took me 2 months exactly from day 1 to being released to the line.

hawk21 01-20-2018 02:00 PM

Roughly how long to hold DFW? I would guess it's on the more senior side of things.

TheDudeabide 01-20-2018 02:31 PM

3-4 months, but you will be reserving it

Dukeuno 01-20-2018 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 2507443)
2 weeks of ground, in that 2 weeks it's CBT. The oral is after about 2 weeks after you start.There is no formal systems class. You learned about systems on your own and doing the briefing before the CSI/FTD. FTD and Sim can be in FLL, DFW or LAS. It took me 2 months exactly from day 1 to being released to the line.

This not totally true, you take your Oral right before you start FTDs. So about 4 weeks after you start class.

Silver02ex 01-20-2018 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Dukeuno (Post 2507517)
This not totally true, you take your Oral right before you start FTDs. So about 4 weeks after you start class.

It's been about 3 years since I was in initial, I figured I was probably off. I remember for sure that I finished OE 2 months after I started.

TheDudeabide 01-20-2018 04:32 PM

7-8 weeks is about right. Plan on completing in FLL unless there is a sim availability problem

flensr 01-20-2018 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2507343)
Because if they want me to start class earlier then June I’d have to turn them down.

Keep in mind that certain other LCCs have suddenly gotten very picky in the application process after a new contract...

gatorbird 01-20-2018 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by TheDudeabide (Post 2507531)
7-8 weeks is about right. Plan on completing in FLL unless there is a sim availability problem

Not true; we have 1 or 2 pairs out of each class going to DFW for FTDs and SIMs.

TheDudeabide 01-20-2018 07:14 PM

Thats the reason I said depending on sim availability

AllOva736 01-20-2018 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2507343)
Because if they want me to start class earlier then June I’d have to turn them down.

Dang that's pretty cool you can turn down jobs for reasons like that. Best of luck to you and your future of give me what I want or I walk attitude. Did your get the offer yet ? Worry about that first

FLYBOYMATTHEW 01-20-2018 08:38 PM

It’s a buyer’s market.

flysooner9 01-20-2018 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by AllOva736 (Post 2507648)
Dang that's pretty cool you can turn down jobs for reasons like that. Best of luck to you and your future of give me what I want or I walk attitude. Did your get the offer yet ? Worry about that first

Well when I currently have a fantastic job I can be pretty picky. So yeah it is pretty cool...

KC135 01-20-2018 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by AllOva736 (Post 2507648)
Dang that's pretty cool you can turn down jobs for reasons like that. Best of luck to you and your future of give me what I want or I walk attitude. Did your get the offer yet ? Worry about that first

I thought it was a legit question. Some people have obligations, contracts, military terms, etc and don't want to apply for the next career move too early.

flysooner9 01-20-2018 09:28 PM

Fact is we’re having a child in March. So no way I’m swotching jobs before this summer. Thus I don’t want to be lucky enough to get a job offer but have to turn it down due to timing. Also as I said I’m not in a huge rush since I’m in a pretty great place right now, just want to eventually get back to 121 flying.

Deathwish 01-20-2018 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2507673)
Fact is we’re having a child in March. So no way I’m swotching jobs before this summer. Thus I don’t want to be lucky enough to get a job offer but have to turn it down due to timing. Also as I said I’m not in a huge rush since I’m in a pretty great place right now, just want to eventually get back to 121 flying.

Why not just tell that to the interviewers? They’re extremely understanding and I’m sure would be happy to work with you on a start date.

RonnyK320 01-21-2018 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by Deathwish (Post 2507677)
Why not just tell that to the interviewers? They’re extremely understanding and I’m sure would be happy to work with you on a start date.

^^^ This. Easy as pie.

flysooner9 01-21-2018 04:54 AM

Yeah that’s a good point. Does anyone know if they have an available date on the app?

Lakeaffect 01-21-2018 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2507737)
Yeah that’s a good point. Does anyone know if they have an available date on the app?

I’m not sure. But when I was hired I delayed my class date for 3 months due to prior obligations. For your situation theirs just no way they won’t accomadate you if you get hired.

gatorbird 01-21-2018 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Deathwish (Post 2507677)
Why not just tell that to the interviewers? They’re extremely understanding and I’m sure would be happy to work with you on a start date.

Actually no. A buddy interviewed last year and had some personal stuff going on, needed to push class dates a bit and tried to be forthcoming about it. Ultimately didn’t get the offer and I believe this was a factor.

Sounder 01-21-2018 08:31 AM

How long does it take them to approve you in CASS as a new hire?

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Deathwish 01-21-2018 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Sounder (Post 2507859)
How long does it take them to approve you in CASS as a new hire?

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Most were approved in cass about halfway through training. If you were assigned a previous class and pushed it back one you will probably be approved in the first week.

Sieve 01-21-2018 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2507737)
Yeah that’s a good point. Does anyone know if they have an available date on the app?

I didn't notice an available date on the app when I filled it out, but that may have changed. When I interviewed, they asked if I had any questions. I mentioned that if they were to extend me a job offer, I would greatly appreciate if they were able to give me a class date a few months in the future for personal reasons. They were happy that I mentioned that, and even happier to accommodate me. They said that the only restriction was that the class they offered couldn't be more than 6 months after your interview.

AllOva736 01-21-2018 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2507671)
Well when I currently have a fantastic job I can be pretty picky. So yeah it is pretty cool...

That's pretty awesome, I didn't mean to come off the way I did but it's really great that you're in a good spot already because you can't lose either way. If you want to work at Spirit, I hope they give you what you ask for so you can be around for your very important life event.

Silver02ex 01-21-2018 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by gatorbird (Post 2507853)
Actually no. A buddy interviewed last year and had some personal stuff going on, needed to push class dates a bit and tried to be forthcoming about it. Ultimately didn’t get the offer and I believe this was a factor.

I don't see how that's possible, once you get a call with an offer, at the end of the call, you discuss when you can start. I was asked if I had any obligations to take of. I told her I will need a month before I start class. This your friend get an offer first? or did he tell them during the interview?

diverdriver2 01-21-2018 02:45 PM

Any guesstimate for getting ORD based?

Skypilotsv1984 01-21-2018 02:53 PM

I delayed for two months due to prior commitments. I was up front about it in the interview as I didn't expect to get the call that quick. You can delay up to six months, just be up front about it.


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