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NKSMCOTAKEOVER 02-04-2018 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by DFWLECNOW (Post 2520164)
These guys 'fear' 25.I but really should fear what will happen to them if they have an accident or an illness with our current CBA. Apparently they don't know any of the unfortunate pilots who have had this happen to them. I do. I want all of us to be protected from that. So yeah, I'm voting yes. It's the right thing for me and the right thing for you. You should thank me sometime.
We all want LTD. just not at the sacrifice of our QOL. If you can calm down for a moment and vote NO you will get LTD along with less concessions when we negotiate TA2. Guaranteed! TA2 will not take more than 4-5 months vs 8 years of mesa airlines style work rules.

Lincoln Osiris 02-04-2018 07:25 PM
Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER (Post 2520172)
We all want LTD. just not at the sacrifice of our QOL. If you can calm down for a moment and vote NO you will get LTD along with less concessions when we negotiate TA2. Guaranteed! TA2 will not take more than 4-5 months vs 8 years of mesa airlines style work rules.
4-5 months lmao good one

CLRtoPush 02-04-2018 07:26 PM
Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER (Post 2520172)
We all want LTD. just not at the sacrifice of our QOL. If you can calm down for a moment and vote NO you will get LTD along with less concessions when we negotiate TA2. Guaranteed! TA2 will not take more than 4-5 months vs 8 years of mesa airlines style work rules.
4-5 months? Did you get the inside scoop from Bendo?

NKSpilot 02-04-2018 07:26 PM
Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER (Post 2520172)
We all want LTD. just not at the sacrifice of our QOL. If you can calm down for a moment and vote NO you will get LTD along with less concessions when we negotiate TA2. Guaranteed! TA2 will not take more than 4-5 months vs 8 years of mesa airlines style work rules.
guaranteed eh?

FlyingOkra 02-04-2018 07:48 PM
Originally Posted by NKSpilot (Post 2520175)
guaranteed eh?
Nothing is guaranteed, but do you have the intestinal fortitude of a Delta or Southwest Pilot?

Don’t sell yourself short. You guys have more leverage than you know.

UNSUBSCRIBE 02-04-2018 07:49 PM
Originally Posted by FlyingOkra (Post 2520192)
Nothing is guaranteed, but do you have the intestinal fortitude of a Delta or Southwest Pilot?

Don’t sell yourself short. You guys have more leverage than you know.
A lot easier to vote no as a DAL or SWA pilot when you arent light years behind in compensation, LTD & Retirement.

Leverage? Really? The TRO is still in place, next meltdown, we end up in court, NMB will never release us, classes are still happening and don’t forget about all the heros who will drop all their plans for MUP

Lincoln Osiris 02-04-2018 07:51 PM
Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE (Post 2520193)
A lot easier to vote no as a DAL or SWA pilot when you arent light years behind in compensation, LTD & Retirement
And looking at an almost 50% pay raise.

NKSpilot 02-04-2018 07:52 PM
Originally Posted by FlyingOkra (Post 2520192)
Nothing is guaranteed, but do you have the intestinal fortitude of a Delta or Southwest Pilot?

Don’t sell yourself short. You guys have more leverage than you know.
As I said before, let’s fight these other fights when the opportunity cost is $10/hr and not $50-70/hr.

Intestinal fortitude or hubris and stupidity?

DFWLECNOW 02-04-2018 07:55 PM
Originally Posted by FlyingOkra (Post 2520192)
Nothing is guaranteed, but do you have the intestinal fortitude of a Delta or Southwest Pilot?

Don’t sell yourself short. You guys have more leverage than you know.
That's a much easier thing to say and do when you're already at or nearly at the top of the industry in compensation and have real LTD when you vote down TA1.

DFWLECNOW 02-04-2018 07:57 PM
Originally Posted by NKSMCOTAKEOVER (Post 2520172)
We all want LTD. just not at the sacrifice of our QOL. If you can calm down for a moment and vote NO you will get LTD along with less concessions when we negotiate TA2. Guaranteed! TA2 will not take more than 4-5 months vs 8 years of mesa airlines style work rules.
This is laughable. We all have different risk tolerances. I'm not willing to vote no over someone else's 'perceived' QOL loss. How will your QOL be if you go out on LTD here the day after this fails?


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