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Sloppy journalism or is this author using a different source of numbers than our NC?

"At the start of 2015, the stock traded in the $70s. Since then, the company has built in another $700 million in annual revenue turnover and booked over $1 billion in net profit. With a market cap of $2.74 billion, as long as the earnings continue to come in, the company is worth at least double. As for the pilot union negotiation, Spirit has reached a tentative deal which could mean an increase of $120 million in pay over the next five years. It’s a far better and more reasonable deal than what was on the table last summer, and voting is set to conclude at the end of this month. In the meantime, Spirit is a bargain."

https://www.gurufocus.com/news/64597...pirit-airlines

Well this TA equals 400,000$ more money for me alone over 5yrs, unless we only have 300 pilots I’d sat the 120m is way off.....

I think he’s off just a little bit. Assuming a $50,000 a year raise (average, but I think it’s more) times 1800 pilots, that equals $90 million per year. So around $500M Just in pay over 5 years. Plus harder to quantify QOL stuff like trip rigs etc. he was probably told those numbers by our management who is trying to downplay it to make themselves look better.

A $50k-80k pay raise per pilot, average? :D

Now let's estimate if each of our pilots, rather than flying an average of 550 hours per year, does 850 hours per year under the T/A. If that ratio is anywhere close to correct, we'd need 1300 pilots to accomplish the same amount of work as 2,000 pilots today... or 2600 pilots to fly the same schedule it would currently require 4,000 pilots. This would be a much more standard ratio of pilots per plane than we currently have- i.e., that's where were headed with this T/A.

Multiply the number of pilots (that we won't need under the T/A) by the average cost per pilot (salary, benefits, payroll tax, etc). That's where the savings are going to roll in for the airline. Even before the savings from substandard hourly rates, which are much more meaningless to the airline than we're giving them credit for.

Now the 120M increase sounds more realistic- and the quoted 12M/year savings for the airline is clearly bull*******

So you u are assuming every pilot works and gets paid less than guarantee every month? 72x12=864....
Math is haaarrddddd

If you think the average Spirit pilots flies anywhere close to 864 block hours per year under our CBA, I've got a T/A to sell to you. :D

It’s not block hours that matter, it’s all about the credit.

You're not valuing the give backs from the pilots correctly. We've been paid NOT to fly with our current deal. With the new TA you've got to fly to get paid. Just like SWA. How have so many missed this fact? Clearly no one at ALPA can do math accurately. The guys on Wall Street do this for a living and bet real money. Over the next couple of years it will become clear the Pilots screwed up by voting for this POS! Buy the stock!

Hmmm, that sounds like the mantra of the 'ole 26% club for the current agreement. Now many of those same loudmouths are repeating the same, tired, illogical reasoning. So now you want to keep the bad 2010 deal? Interesting.

We'll fly no where near what SWA pilots fly. Those who will fly an extra 200 a year will most likely be the 10% living the transition. It does suck, but the other 90% think living with no LTD, scope or retirement sucks more than a few having to fly. Let's see what tomorrow brings.

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Not that interesting. I'm not one of the 26%, but I'm not falling for the trailer park math that has been presented to me.

At this point, Ted Christie has more credibility with his statements regarding the "cost increase" of the T/A than our own NC. Ted Christie is held under strict SEC laws that prevent him from making false statements regarding SAVE's finances.

Has the NC been held accountable? When someone brings up legitimate basic accounting to the group on here, it doesn't take long for a 30K millionaire to leave a comment like the one above.

It’s funny you say that. Now, I respect anyone’s yes or no vote. We all get a say. However, I laughed when after 9 years of delay this management bought the flight attendants into another decade long low tier contract with a $4k-7k bonus. More money than most of them have ever seen. I often wonder if our management laughs at us the same way with this deal or if like many of us they see pluses and minuses and are just ready to settle with the best deal they could get.

This. And at least the flight attendants didn’t fall for Pbs and can still drop reserve days. Prepare for a battle at every corner of this TA if it passes. So many new rules to be interpreted, and the next 5 to 8 years to do it.


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You mean for bad overtime website?

Fa's I just flew with said they can't stop rsv days...

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It’s in the FA contract that they can drop reserve days subject to operational needs. The company has prevented them from dropping since Hurricane Harvey.

Gotcha

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Glad we're using the F/A's contract as the benchmark of QOL provisions. :D

Fa I just flew with says her Bestie has a classmate in DFW who is cousins with a guy in FLL who just dropped a reserve day.

We have to now that we voted ours away....


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