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TexBubba 04-02-2018 12:47 PM

Long Haul ULCC Potential here?
 
Could Spirit be successful in the ULCC long haul market? 115 so airplanes now, current book 161 I believe. This is probably enough support 10 to 15 widebodies to South America and certain places in Europe maybe even LA to a few markets in Asia. Besides NAS, does anyone think it’s a true possibility with the new A330 neo or the A330-800, or possibly A350s? Certainly down the road a few years but if anybody was going to do it it seems like it would be us as the largest ULCC of North America. Now that the Pilot contract is behind us and they have their cost structures It would seem like now would be the time to try so long haul international stuff.

putzin 04-02-2018 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by TexBubba (Post 2563494)
Could Spirit be successful in the ULCC long haul market? 115 so airplanes now, current book 161 I believe. This is probably enough support 10 to 15 widebodies to South America and certain places in Europe maybe even LA to a few markets in Asia. Besides NAS, does anyone think it’s a true possibility with the new A330 neo or the A330-800, or possibly A350s? Certainly down the road a few years but if anybody was going to do it it seems like it would be us as the largest ULCC of North America. Now that the Pilot contract is behind us and they have their cost structures It would seem like now would be the time to try so long haul international stuff.


My "***" isn't interested in anything that stays aloft much longer than 5 hours. :D Besides that, I'd rather see 100 of anything than just 10-15 new frames. We still very little, relatively speaking.

WHACKMASTER 04-02-2018 03:54 PM

Don’t read this as anything more than face value but you guys are going to be acquired long before there’s a chance for widebodies to show up on property.

Qotsaautopilot 04-02-2018 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2563528)
My "***" isn't interested in anything that stays aloft much longer than 5 hours. :D Besides that, I'd rather see 100 of anything than just 10-15 new frames. We still very little, relatively speaking.

Someone will want to and it will just make you that much more senior on the narrowbody. Win win

Qotsaautopilot 04-02-2018 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by TexBubba (Post 2563494)
Could Spirit be successful in the ULCC long haul market? 115 so airplanes now, current book 161 I believe. This is probably enough support 10 to 15 widebodies to South America and certain places in Europe maybe even LA to a few markets in Asia. Besides NAS, does anyone think it’s a true possibility with the new A330 neo or the A330-800, or possibly A350s? Certainly down the road a few years but if anybody was going to do it it seems like it would be us as the largest ULCC of North America. Now that the Pilot contract is behind us and they have their cost structures It would seem like now would be the time to try so long haul international stuff.

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ropestart 04-03-2018 04:08 AM

I could absolutely see this happening. Norwegian was seriously underestimated as well as Azul. Spirit literally can do anything they want....If money can be made,they will do it.

sailingfun 04-03-2018 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by ropestart (Post 2563856)
I could absolutely see this happening. Norwegian was seriously underestimated as well as Azul. Spirit literally can do anything they want....If money can be made,they will do it.

I gather you have not been following Norwegian. They are losing their ass on the long haul. Many are starting to question how long they can sustain their losses.

Chimpy 04-03-2018 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2563607)
Don’t read this as anything more than face value but you guys are going to be acquired long before there’s a chance for widebodies to show up on property.

As long as it isnt SWA.............wouldnt want to get “Air-Tranned” 😐

ropestart 04-03-2018 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2563859)
I gather you have not been following Norwegian. They are losing their ass on the long haul. Many are starting to question how long they can sustain their losses.

True, but they are growing very quickly so that can be expected. 787’s are being added like wildfire with the seats going empty. Doesn’t mean they won’t be for long, just adding more compasity. Granted, I do give you they are losing loot. The ULCC model will work long haul if managed correctly, just need the right management.

WHACKMASTER 04-03-2018 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2563865)
As long as it isnt SWA.............wouldnt want to get “Air-Tranned” 😐

Yeah, no kidding. I hear ya :rolleyes:


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