Will be announced on the earnings call tomorrow.

Roger that!

It’s a mass order for the Comac C919. Much better aircraft than the CS series overall.

Edit: actually a combined order for the C919 and A330. A330 feeds the new ULCCC (ultra low cost Chinese carrier) Spirit of China.

Expect a virtual base in Beijing.

Will no longer be called the CSeries soon enough:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-25/bombardier-c-series-set-to-become-just-another-airbus-after-deal

It's going to be an historic order of 100 A380 NEO's. 800 seats with the largest PW geared engine ever produced. The LGA to LAX route just got interesting.

What flap setting do we use for takeoff in LGA? “Config Spirit”

Meh, we’ll just use the ole seaport and put the 380’s on floats.

A sharpie yellow A380 would be repelled by the earth. Flaps one would be sufficient.

As for the earnings call and aircraft order....wah wah wah wu wha wu wha wha (Price is Right fail theme)

Nope. Still good. Must not have gotten all the "i's" dotted and the "t's" crossed before the call.

I've been gone from NK for just under a month now and my contacts there are solid.

Looks like we’re keeping all but one 319 now, so there’s that. 177 planes by 2021.

From Bendo to a new hire class, “no aircraft orders for 12months or so.”

He doesn’t know and is blowing hot air. People higher than him have been aggressively pursuing a new aircraft order as well as additional gates in key cities. Example DFW.

They're still working out the details of a merger with Frontier, Alaskan or JetBlue.

Well, they’re working in additional gates in DFW because AA is taking the E island away from us until the economy downturns again and they’ll again be empty.

Fail. Our gates in DFW are way underutilized

Ding ding ding. We have a winner

Looks like an additional 7 A320 NEOs

http://ir.spirit.com/static-files/2e...0-ed7f909f9aec

We announce new planes with jacked up motors. SWA announces Hawaii. 👏👏👏👏

Perhaps he’s not at liberty to say

Just finished a flight. What’s the word? How many confirmed 737-800s being added and over what timeframe?

Who's Alaskan?

The combination of Virgin and Alaska.

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Holding onto the 319’s through 2021 to yield 177 aircraft may signal Spirit’s willingness to wait for available Airbus slots starting that year.

+7 new 320 NEO's late '18 early '19.

Same question I posited on the other thread. Does the company think they can meet the additional growth they desired with the additional NEO’s and retained 319’s? Or is an aircraft order still on the horizon?

An airline where the past and future collided.

Hey gripngrab - what’s your update? Were you simply misinformed or just f%#king with us?

My point was missed. There is no Alaskan. It's Alaska.

It wasn’t missed.

It actually seemed that they wanted to taper growth due to the recent spike in fuel prices. Certain routes will be re-evaluated in off-peak due to their stage length and associated fuel cost. More seasonality/frequency adjustments in the off-peak quarters. Doesn’t seem they’re needy for a new plane order any time soon given the current fundamentals. That said, anything could happen. Said orders may have already occurred at another ULCC and operate a very similar aircraft type.... Marriage in the works a few years down the road??

Curious as well.

Like I said, my contacts there are good. I've been gone from NK less than a month now. I would expect to hear something soon. Either way, its great news for all you NK guys.

If this is the case, their thought process seems a bit shortsighted if not completely stupid to me. They're saying they want to slow growth and not order new airplanes, which take several years to get, because fuel prices are high right now? What if they wait to order new planes when fuel is cheap but its expensive several years later when the planes show up. Not ordering planes, for whatever reason, in the past has put them in the bind they are in now in regards to not being able to get any delivery slots from Airbus. I have a hard time believing the recent spike in fuel makes them want to slow growth in the future.

I say the screwed up and got beat out for Airbus slots and now trying to make it look like that’s their plan all along.

The more likely scenario.

CSeries would make complete sense - more fuel efficient than existing A319/20s and plenty of delivery slots available. With the impending Airbus JV support and favorable experience from SWISS adding the CS100 and CS300, it just makes sense for Spirit to seriously consider it.

Bottom line: the CS300 would be a great growth platform for Spirit in all market types (including secondary markets) - even Air Canada recognizes the benefits and will be adding 45+ CS300s starting in 2019...

LOL to be fair Air Canada pretty much had to buy them to support the home grown airplane. I don't even think Bombardier made a penny of the sale of those because they discounted them so much.

To be fair? Really? The AC E190s had high CASMs and the more versatile and efficient CS300s will replace them. Again, launch pricing is always cheaper. Do you know anything about the CSeries and it’s optimized technology? Check out what Air Canada is saying about the CS300:

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/air-canadas-cs300s-could-enable-broad-network-chang-434067/

Take note of how they think the CS300 could be used on any route and how the CASM is comparable to that of much bigger airplanes with higher seat counts. It’s a game changer and most people have zero clue what it can do in terms of efficiency and route versatility. The airlines in Europe that are now using the CSeries seem very pleased with it.

How long have you worked for Bombardier?

Zero relationship. Just a big fan of new technology and I have watched the program since it’s inception. Perhaps you should do a little research about the CSeries instead of being so dismissive. Again, do yourself a favor and re-read this and think about how Spirit could use something with this low CASM and flexibility:

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/air-canadas-cs300s-could-enable-broad-network-chang-434067/

Just think about how many secondary markets could benefit from Spirit service - markets like Dean Moines, Spokane, Syracuse, Baton Rouge and Harrisburg, to name a few. Older A319s and A320s would not be economical in a number of these markets - but an airplane like the CS300 is already 25% more efficient than the A319/20. Suddenly these markets are more viable and you can offer shorter connections to bigger markets or skip them and fly routes like Dean Moines to FLL or SYR to PHX profitably. You can’t beat the economics - especially as fuel costs are starting to rise again. Overall, the CSeries is a great airplane and I would love to see it in Spirit’s taxi cab yellow colors.

Not to mention the technology makes the Airbus look like a CRJ.