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Qotsaautopilot 09-09-2018 08:17 PM

Wasn’t a jab at the contract. I actually am interested in why we seem to draw more interest from corporate pilots than the other majors do. I hadn’t thought about a lot of Flight departments being in Florida. I didn’t realize it was more weighted than New York or LA or Chicago. I don’t know anything about corporate flying

AllOva736 09-09-2018 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2671280)
Wasn’t a jab at the contract. I actually am interested in why we seem to draw more interest from corporate pilots than the other majors do. I hadn’t thought about a lot of Flight departments being in Florida. I didn’t realize it was more weighted than New York or LA or Chicago. I don’t know anything about corporate flying

My guess is because we seem like a good place to spend a career and also we are looked at as one of the career destinations who might call first. Better shot at getting called equals more interest

evanss9550 09-09-2018 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2671112)
Free advice (FWIW), I am not involved in hiring. But if you are only interested in NK I would go at least 135PIC. If you want to be more competitive for bigger and better things in general, I would go 2+3. Honestly not sure how much 4yr does for NK, I didn't have one and was 91K before, but I would still recommend 4yr for everywhere else. Also I think having only 91 time is seen as a risk for training as there is a very big variety in the amount of SOP/CRM/training.

I've actually been really lucky to work with some nice 91 companies that have pretty descent SOP/CRM. I've also done all my type and recurrent training at FSI/SimCom/CAE, but I definitely understand why the airlines would be worried about snagging someone who did their training at Jim Bob's weekend citation type course; I know some who have.

Spirit is the end goal for me. Almost everybody that I've talked with really likes working there, and the compensation and lifestyle is something I could retire at. Maybe I'll look into some 135 PIC opportunities then.

cezzna 09-10-2018 02:32 AM

I’m corporate and interested. Don’t have chief pilot, check airman, etc time so not likely to get a call from a legacy. Frontier is a dumpster fire from everything I read, jet blue is meh, Southwest I would never make captain before retiring, Alaska is too far from home, cargo is a no for me (my ability to stay up all night is nil), Allegiant is maybe possible but those old airplanes! Kind of leaves spirit. Don’t now anyone there, no internal recs. I have corporate 135 time, 4 year degree, house trained, so who knows?

New planes, long legs, I like South America/Central American flying, piques my interest.

Keizer Soze 09-10-2018 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by cezzna (Post 2671310)
I’m corporate and interested. Don’t have chief pilot, check airman, etc time so not likely to get a call from a legacy. Frontier is a dumpster fire from everything I read, jet blue is meh, Southwest I would never make captain before retiring, Alaska is too far from home, cargo is a no for me (my ability to stay up all night is nil), Allegiant is maybe possible but those old airplanes! Kind of leaves spirit. Don’t now anyone there, no internal recs. I have corporate 135 time, 4 year degree, house trained, so who knows?

New planes, long legs, I like South America/Central American flying, piques my interest.

Just make sure you don't let the Spirit recruiters know that they were you last choice. :D

navigatro 09-10-2018 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2671280)
Wasn’t a jab at the contract. I actually am interested in why we seem to draw more interest from corporate pilots than the other majors do. I hadn’t thought about a lot of Flight departments being in Florida. I didn’t realize it was more weighted than New York or LA or Chicago. I don’t know anything about corporate flying

my guess is that corporate pilots have a harder time getting hired at the majors (compared to mil/regional/121). so they go to where they get the offers.

lowandslow 09-10-2018 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by cezzna (Post 2671310)
I’m corporate and interested. Don’t have chief pilot, check airman, etc time so not likely to get a call from a legacy. Frontier is a dumpster fire from everything I read, jet blue is meh, Southwest I would never make captain before retiring, Alaska is too far from home, cargo is a no for me (my ability to stay up all night is nil), Allegiant is maybe possible but those old airplanes! Kind of leaves spirit. Don’t now anyone there, no internal recs. I have corporate 135 time, 4 year degree, house trained, so who knows?

New planes, long legs, I like South America/Central American flying, piques my interest.

Just over a year ago it could have been argued we were also a dumpster fire. Not saying we're quite in as bad a spot as those guys but it was pretty bad. At least we'll have to wait 5 years for ours to start up again.

Just so you're aware we do quite a bit of night flying. Red-eye jungle turns and LAS/LAX/OAK/SEA to XXX.

Qotsaautopilot 09-10-2018 07:12 AM

Certainly had schedules where I didn’t see daylight at work for months. Somewhat by choice but even if you try to avoid the night flying it’s kind of unavoidable depending on base and seniority

symbian simian 09-10-2018 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by cezzna (Post 2671310)
I’m corporate and interested. Don’t have chief pilot, check airman, etc time so not likely to get a call from a legacy. Frontier is a dumpster fire from everything I read, jet blue is meh, Southwest I would never make captain before retiring, Alaska is too far from home, cargo is a no for me (my ability to stay up all night is nil), Allegiant is maybe possible but those old airplanes! Kind of leaves spirit. Don’t now anyone there, no internal recs. I have corporate 135 time, 4 year degree, house trained, so who knows?

New planes, long legs, I like South America/Central American flying, piques my interest.

Average age of fleet down to 13 years at allegiant, compared to 20? CMIIAW at DL. Last summer I lost my day currency (2 day landings out of 52 total in 3 months), every time with the exception of OE I’ve flown south it was dark. FO pay at SWA is pretty close to CAP pay here when you include scheduling efficiency, I think JB would be a good choice with their new contract. Have to agree about F9 though.

Super EZ E 09-10-2018 07:55 AM

Go where you can get hired. With that said stay far away from F9 like it's herpes. :eek: I'm referring to the management hacks, not the pilot group. :cool:


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