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elmetal 09-15-2018 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Green Giant (Post 2674666)
Every year I hear that we are going to have AQP. Current system seems to be working just fine.

I'm not by any means siding with that guy BUT, if you've never had AQP you may not quite grasp how we're missing out.

AQP encourages learning from the pilot groups mistakes (e.g. in 2017 our biggest issues were ECAMs regarding.... whatever, engine failure in the flight levels. Ok let's do that procedure to make sure everyone is comfortable and current, etc), it encourages going over lots of procedures that we rarely ever ever do (like for example emergency descents, v1 cuts, depressurization, crew incapacitation, gear not down and locked) and learn from it.

AQP is about learning and increasing safety. Non-aqp encourages a whole hell of a lot of d*** measuring in the training department and not a lot of learning. Specifically dealing with Recurrents, not newhire

flyboyike 09-15-2018 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2674744)

AQP is about learning and increasing safety. Non-aqp encourages a whole hell of a lot of d*** measuring in the training department and not a lot of learning. Specifically dealing with Recurrents, not newhire

Your point is well taken, but it also depends on who you have in the training department. A dick measurer in non-AQP is unlikely to suddenly realize the error of his ways in AQP. If anything, he will now have the freedom to invent all sorts of cockamamie (see what I did there?) scenarios, which he could not do under the traditional system.

Ed Force One 09-15-2018 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by telejet (Post 2672876)
If you can get through every limitation and memory item without a hiccup, you are about 75% done. After that, it was mostly straight from the oral exam guide.

Both my new hire type oral (2013) and my Upgrade oral (2017) covered almost every button on the overhead panel. "What happens if you push it?" and "What does the fault light mean?" Not ball buster instructors, just standard oral stuff.

In new hire I was able to download the AOM vol 1 to the hotel computer and then printed out every page that showed the buttons on the panel and what each light means. You can do this at home, library, or overnight hotel using Print Page, I assume. It's about 30 pages or so. (I'm old school in that I prefer studying off of paper.)

It's my most valuable study aid and I go over it before very training event.

falcon2000aj 09-15-2018 05:48 PM

United Airbus oral video.........YouTube

Deathwish 09-15-2018 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by falcon2000aj (Post 2675010)
United Airbus oral video.........YouTube

Do you have a link? Last time I checked it wasn’t on YouTube anymore.

Lincoln Osiris 09-15-2018 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Deathwish (Post 2675042)
Do you have a link? Last time I checked it wasn’t on YouTube anymore.

https://youtu.be/BaErJ76-FqM

Looks like someone else had it saved and uploaded it after the original was deleted. God bless him or her lol.

Ed Force One 09-15-2018 09:06 PM

Yes. I watch that before each Checkride and PC too.

Just make sure you know what hydraulic system Spirits Nosewheel Steering is on.

Deathwish 09-16-2018 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 2675067)
https://youtu.be/BaErJ76-FqM

Looks like someone else had it saved and uploaded it after the original was deleted. God bless him or her lol.

Fantastic thank you, and yes thank the person who reloaded into YouTube.

Jluis546 09-16-2018 03:04 PM

Are new hires still low time regional, guys? 1000 turbine? 2500tt. Also can spirit pilots ACTUALLY ride their own metal j/s internationally?

Worldflyer89 09-16-2018 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Jluis546 (Post 2675449)
Are new hires still low time regional, guys? 1000 turbine? 2500tt. Also can spirit pilots ACTUALLY ride their own metal j/s internationally?



Most are now 5000+ TT, 1000+ TPIC

Yes


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