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WhiteMorpheus 12-15-2018 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by AllOva736 (Post 2725465)
That's fair. although saying 14 off gets you over 100 credit is embellishing. Call it what you will , that's what it is. A special month gets you that, not the average month seeing as 22.5 is a great 4 day trip here and 22.5 x 4 = 90 and that would be 14-15 days off per month.

Under the rigs coming with PBS, a "real" 4-day (one that ends on day four after a whole day's work, ie end time is at least 8 hours after your day one start time) will credit no less than 23 hours. Working 12 days (3 real 4-days) will be a minimum of 92 hours. Throw in a "real" 2-day at 10 hours of credit and you're at 100+ for 14 days of work.

Ducttape 12-15-2018 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus (Post 2725826)
Under the rigs coming with PBS, a "real" 4-day (one that ends on day four after a whole day's work, ie end time is at least 8 hours after your day one start time) will credit no less than 23 hours. Working 12 days (3 real 4-days) will be a minimum of 92 hours. Throw in a "real" 2-day at 10 hours of credit and you're at 100+ for 14 days of work.

Best check that math...

Halon1211 12-15-2018 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Ducttape (Post 2725848)
Best check that math...

Lol. Don’t get his hopes up.

IwasInverted 12-15-2018 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus (Post 2725826)
Under the rigs coming with PBS, a "real" 4-day (one that ends on day four after a whole day's work, ie end time is at least 8 hours after your day one start time) will credit no less than 23 hours. Working 12 days (3 real 4-days) will be a minimum of 92 hours. Throw in a "real" 2-day at 10 hours of credit and you're at 100+ for 14 days of work.

3x23=????? Not 92

Thrust Hold 12-15-2018 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by BKbigfish (Post 2725475)
Lol... I despise people who exaggerate their earnings on this site. NK isn’t without its faults and we have some serious room for improvement in the next round but if we have one thing figured out here it’s schedule flexibility. I hear your frustration on our inefficient trips. As far as efficiency goes, that should improve with PBS implementation.

Swing and a miss on the “Schedule Flexibility” for the Reserve guys come PBS implementation time. :(

BKbigfish 12-15-2018 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Thrust Hold (Post 2725874)
Swing and a miss on the “Schedule Flexibility” for the Reserve guys come PBS implementation time. :(

I was referring to line holders but yes you are correct reserves took a hit on this contract with the loss of the ability to drop. That being said, I spent a lot of time on reserve here and reserves have never had true schedule flexibility. Reserves have never been able to swap or pick up open time (although now they can put themselves on the x/y list so that’s an improvement from the CBA 2010). Hopefully this won’t be much of an issue with PBS implementation as reserves should have an easier time getting the days they need off on their initial bid award vs line bidding where you are bidding on pre-made lines.

Qotsaautopilot 12-15-2018 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by BKbigfish (Post 2725921)
I was referring to line holders but yes you are correct reserves took a hit on this contract with the loss of the ability to drop. That being said, I spent a lot of time on reserve here and reserves have never had true schedule flexibility. Reserves have never been able to swap or pick up open time (although now they can put themselves on the x/y list so that’s an improvement from the CBA 2010). Hopefully this won’t be much of an issue with PBS implementation as reserves should have an easier time getting the days they need off on their initial bid award vs line bidding where you are bidding on pre-made lines.

How will a rsv be able to use float vacation?

pangolin 12-15-2018 04:44 PM

Don’t fool yourself. There’s a reason the company allowed pbs. Pbs can easily be weaponized by the company.


Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus (Post 2725826)
Under the rigs coming with PBS, a "real" 4-day (one that ends on day four after a whole day's work, ie end time is at least 8 hours after your day one start time) will credit no less than 23 hours. Working 12 days (3 real 4-days) will be a minimum of 92 hours. Throw in a "real" 2-day at 10 hours of credit and you're at 100+ for 14 days of work.


Lincoln Osiris 12-15-2018 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 2725961)
Don’t fool yourself. There’s a reason the company allowed pbs. Pbs can easily be weaponized by the company.

How? Aren't you just a 1 year FO at Mesa?

BKbigfish 12-15-2018 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2725951)
How will a rsv be able to use float vacation?

They won’t (other than MFV). I’m assuming this was rhetorical and posted to make a point. The inability to drop for reserves is frustrating but was apparently a concession the majority of the group was willing to make. As much as I am disappointed in the loss of the ability of reserves to drop days, I still feel like reserve here is extremely tolerable if not desireable. We continue to have plenty of senior guys bidding reserve. I realize that we have yet to see PBS implementation and the total loss of the ability for reserves to drop, but I would bet a large sum of money that the senior guys bidding reserve now will continue to bid reserve under PBS. Let’s put it this way... if I lived in base I would most likely bid reserve every month here for the rest of my career.


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