Please don’t leave the plane with no A/C
01-10-2019, 12:05 PM
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Please don’t leave the plane with no A/C
If the OAT is 60F or above it gets very hot in the back with 200ish bodies on board. I know our pax, FAs, commuting pilots, and deadheaders would much appreciate if you ran the APU bleed until air is connected and then shut it down or just leave with it running if you must. I know they are supposed to connect external quickly but even a few minutes and the temp rises fast. Feel free to SETWA all you want just crank the APU when you pull into the gate.
01-10-2019, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
If the OAT is 60F or above it gets very hot in the back with 200ish bodies on board. I know our pax, FAs, commuting pilots, and deadheaders would much appreciate if you ran the APU bleed until air is connected and then shut it down or just leave with it running if you must. I know they are supposed to connect external quickly but even a few minutes and the temp rises fast. Feel free to SETWA all you want just crank the APU when you pull into the gate.
to add onto this:
The company has made it very clear they do not care about apu cycles. apu running for 3 minutes while they hook up GPU is cheaper than engine running for 3 minutes. oh AND the added benefit is we have air! I wish more guys did this. setwa on the taxi in sure, but apu to shut down.
01-10-2019, 12:21 PM
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If you’re in the Arctic by all means hit the GPU and roll out but in the southern climates year round it’s like the pit of hell back in row 30 with no air and the pilots are long gone. And start the friggin APU when we start boarding and have them disconnect ground. External can never keep up once the bodies come on.
01-10-2019, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain
I disagree, if the external air is working well it will remain in the low 70’s even with 230 souls in the back.
That’s a big if it’s working...
That’s a big if it’s working...
01-10-2019, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
90% of the time external air being hot is a direct result of the gate agent not putting the temp probe in the cabin
01-10-2019, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain
I disagree, if the external air is working well it will remain in the low 70’s even with 230 souls in the back.
That’s a big if it’s working...
That’s a big if it’s working...
01-11-2019, 06:09 AM
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Please stop turning on apu bleed the second after the engine is shut down. Let the motors spool down so we don’t suck all the exhaust into the apu intake.
Whoever is teaching new hires to turn on apu bleed while turning off the fuel pumps.
STOP IT!
Whoever is teaching new hires to turn on apu bleed while turning off the fuel pumps.
STOP IT!
01-11-2019, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain
Please stop turning on apu bleed the second after the engine is shut down. Let the motors spool down so we don’t suck all the exhaust into the apu intake.
Whoever is teaching new hires to turn on apu bleed while turning off the fuel pumps.
STOP IT!
Whoever is teaching new hires to turn on apu bleed while turning off the fuel pumps.
STOP IT!
However, technique wise, yes avoid exhaust fumes is a good idea by waiting a few seconds after shut down. Depending on where the wind is from, you might be just fine doing it immediately after shutdown, other times not. Its not a perfect science. Dont be so grumpy. Lol
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