Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2894966)

the answer is simple. More money, more time off.

Give me the equivalent amount of TAFB and paycheck as a widebody guy and you can take that 330 to your grave I'll take the 220,320 whatever.

Guys here ***** and moan about redeyes but you want a plane that does 100% redeyes? lol ok.


BOG is not the big deal that spirit makes it out to be. Ask any pilot who has flown anywhere with "complicated procedures" which BOG btw isn't. Try RNO, ASE, TEX, SUN, etcetcetc

Just because some florida guys who never cross the mississippi get oo'd and aw'd by some mountains and "complex" procedures and omgomg weight restrictions? doesn't mean that it's a complicated airport. It's not, get over it.

Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2894966)

the answer is simple. More money, more time off.

Give me the equivalent amount of TAFB and paycheck as a widebody guy and you can take that 330 to your grave I'll take the 220,320 whatever.

Guys here ***** and moan about redeyes but you want a plane that does 100% redeyes? lol ok.


BOG is not the big deal that spirit makes it out to be. Ask any pilot who has flown anywhere with "complicated procedures" which BOG btw isn't. Try RNO, ASE, TEX, SUN, etcetcetc

Just because some florida guys who never cross the mississippi get oo'd and aw'd by some mountains and "complex" procedures and omgomg weight restrictions? doesn't mean that it's a complicated airport. It's not, get over it.

Originally Posted by dotslash (Post 2894993)

You are God of Aviation. I am humble in your presence.

Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 2894962)

For those who whine about back side of the clock flying, you cannot do long haul and avoid this. Yes it’s hard on the body, and an Airport hotel 45-60 minutes from central London or Paris gets just as old as one next to LGA. To avoid hitting another circadian rhythm the best layover times are less than 18 or over 30 hours, I’m guessing we won’t be doing the long ones. Etc etc.



Compared to Kathmandu, Bogota is quite manageable (I did BOG in a 777). QFE approaches with metric altitudes into Kazakhstan, or butterfly shaped double procedure turn VOR approaches which aren’t in the FMS into Peshawar.



No, because most of our routes are dispatched under FAA rules, not ICAO, that’s why.

As far as cooler, I mean, I guess...

Working out dispatch legalities for ETOPS, commercial cargo safety requirements, dealing with HF in remote areas, being 3 hours away from anything resembling a runway over the pole, and the intricacies of NAT OTS procedures isn't about being cooler, it’s that flying domestically in the US is really friggin easy and for me not worth a pay bump to do all that again.

Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 2895142)

We don’t fly to Kathmandu or Kazakhstan nor do we do QFE approaches at metric altitudes so thats really not going to help you in Bogota

Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 2895154)

That’s what you derived from my post?

I get it, Bogota intimidates you. Next time try the RNAV, works great and the check airman will give you a big wet kiss and one of the spirit pilot stickers.

Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 2895176)

Ah, there you go. Now the attitude really comes out.

I guess you weren’t joking, those red-eyes really get to you!

Haha yeah and BTW I used to do BOG at my last job. I feel it’s pretty manageable too!

Originally Posted by CLRtoPush (Post 2895226)

Hey you two, thx for handling all the hard stuff for me! I never go south, my standards are to high.