Possible Plane Order
 

Boeing is expected to Launch the NMA or 797 at this years Paris Air Show. This plane is going to be a 757/767 replacement. Could be a narrow body but reports suggest a small wide body is being considered.

Spirit is expected to announce a new plane order any day now.

What if Spirit is the Launch Customer of the NMA? Have no idea if we will buy this plane, but I think we could make it work.

Yeh and being the launch customer for the NEO has worked out for us swimmingly right?

The A320 has worked out well for us. As far as a geared engine, name one geared engine that worked correctly on a plane?

If a plane comes out without mechanical issues, I’m sure we can make money with them.

Friend said Ted was on a recent flight and probably won’t here about a order now til mid year.

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If we were to be the launch customer I would hope we would have another airplane order as well before that one. It takes like 10 years from when an airplane manufacturer goes from R & D on an new airplane till it’s first revenue flight and throw in some production delays.

Sums up this thread pretty well.


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Paris Air Show is June 23rd 2019. So that time line lines up well with Boeing’s expected Launch Announcement. Customers for the plane would be revealed as well.

Absolutely possible... the 321LR won’t work with our seating configuration. We need an aircraft that has legs and can carry 250-270 pax.

We are more likely to get profit sharing then to order this NMA which doesn’t even exist yet. And the chances of us ever getting profit sharing from this management team are between slim and none and slim just left town.

If true I wonder why the announcement keeps getting pushed back.. All previous communication on this subject indicated end of 2018-1Q 2019.

As I’ve said before. I think they screwed the pooch and got beat to the punch on ordering more Airbus for 2021 and beyond. Guessing now seeing if any economic downturn actually happens and someone starts backing out of orders and then try and grab some then.

F9 merger?

That wouldn't fall within the 13-15% growth guidance that's been issued would it? I think it's too early for NK or F9 to be talking merger. We've made significant improvements in the quality of our airline but we still have a ways to go. And as we're in the process of spending capital to put the new logo on the side of the airplanes and every other piece of forward facing material with our logo I can't then see merging in six months to do it all over again.

What makes you think if a merger we’re to happen that Spirit would be the ones changing anything? Lol

An acquisition would certainly fulfill the growth requirements for the next few years depending on how many of their deliveries were negotiated in the deal. Whether NK would pay Indigo a premium for those slots is an unknown. I also don't know the tolerance for 4 different engine types but that'd be a minor issue, aside from the poorer CFM fuel burn, with manuals and maintenance. Boeing has presented a 3/2 aircraft full fleet swap plan with simulator and MX support. I don't want F9 or antique airplanes but who knows what's coming our way. Hopefully Ted's welcome email is a tad longer than Bob's was.

That’s all nice and stuff, but it doesn’t address the point. The theory is that a possible order announcement has been put off 6 months as F9 just passed their contract and will soon be floated for sale by Indigo. It also coincides nicely with our slight rebranding, new paint and new unis.

It’s just a guess that fits the facts and not indicative of what I’m hoping will happen.

Okay no I was talking about the updated logo on the aircraft and you said "change it all over again" so that's what I was referring to. Not all that stuff you were talking about.

I bet uniforms aren’t one of the top 50 things execs GAF about when considering mergers or acquisitions. They’d probably put us in a pair of chinos and a polo anyway, so how much could that possibly cost?

Booooo no Boeing. You ever been in the cockpit? Horribly uncomfortable. Trust me. You want to keep Airbus lol


And Teds welcome email? What welcome. He’s already taken over. Just another absentee CEO. You won’t hear much from him. Behind the scenes so far. My last airline, We had a damn good CEO. Weekly updates. Videos. He was very hands on and vocal. You won’t see that here since Baldanza

Allegiant would be more likely than F9. F9 has a stand-alone future and direction. Spirit has none beyond 2021. I can see us buying Allegiant for their 50ish Airbus and getting some straggler Airbus from China/Russia or Virgin

I bet you wouldn’t be saying that if it was a 787. Lol

Because a 787 isn't a cockpit from 1960 where you have no space at all. a 777 and a 787 cockpits are large. (75/76 meh)


Really it's just the 737 that's stuck in the damn stone age and boeing doesn't seem to give a crap.

Boeing: "Oh did we mention our planes come with a free tailstand*?"


* Because our piece of crap is so 'well designed' that it can fall backwards on its tail or even get lifted by a little 50mph wind and get utterly destroyed.
https://kdvr.com/2019/01/07/wind-gus...er-at-dia/amp/

Yes Mr. Baldanza...you have to admit If you were here during that time this was an AWFUL airline...the product sucked the on time sucked the maintenance sucked... it all sucked..
Baldanza communicated with employees? Who cares! Keep the stock price up and 1bil in unrestricted cash in the bank and I sleep better at night. This airline is light years ahead of where it was when BB was here. Good riddance. This is our airline and we FINALLY have something to be proud of. More airplanes will come it’s just a question of when. We are far too profitable to be left in the weeds while everyone else grows... and from a product standpoint... we blow f9 and Allegiant out of the water.. FINALLY...Baldanza is gone for a reason...we’re gonna be fine if everyone is patient. As far as your old CEO... that’s nice and gives the employees the warm and fuzzies...I care about stock price and debt...and profit sharing in 2022!

True as can be. I wish some passengers would realize we are not what we were 4 years ago.

Atleast someone gets it! These airplanes are coming and to some, because it hasn't been announced yet, Spirit has become a "ruderless ship". What's to say the order isn't already in place with the manufacturer and the company is waiting to make an announcement on their terms (timing for gains in stock value or investor confidence)? The board elected senior management would be terminated if the ship became "rudderless".

The posters who say "my friend had Ted on his plane and he said blah blah blah", Ted ain't saying S H I T to some line pilot or the FTC would be all over him. The order is coming and its been mentioned on multiple investor calls. Sit back, enjoy your five days off reducible to four.

Neither are that large, and the 787 seats look all high tech, but they are just a plastic shell around the same torture device that are in the other Boeing flight decks. Airbus is much more comfortable overall.

Well despite your outlook, skipper I just flew with had Ted on board a week or so ago, chatted with him and said they were waiting on a “request for proposal” from an undisclosed manufacturer, and it normally takes a bit of time for legal and beam counters to dissect this, so any potential order announcement wouldn’t be “until later this year”.

Straight laced ex-military guy who didn’t seem like one to embellish or invent rumors. Take it for what it’s worth

Of course pure speculation, but my bet is a big Paris Airshow order. Would be interesting if Boeing offered a combo deal for 737MAX, Embraer E2s and maybe some new 797 positions since the rumor is that the 797 would be launched at the Paris Air Show. Delta will be the official launch customer for the 797, but a large, mixed Spirit order would be BIG airshow news.

Still would love to see a combo Airbus order with CSeries/A220s and A321NEOs (maybe sourced from Norwegian’s previous large order). I guess time will tell...

Sure, I wouldn't dispute that. I should have specified actual details of a deal wouldn't be discussed.

Good info though!

Wow some of these theories are getting pretty creative...and I thought I was the crazy theory guy.

Yes!!!!! I’m sure you are on to something here!!! In 10 years, I too have no doubt that Spirit will be flying the A319, A320, A320 Neo, A321, E195 E2, the 737 Max 10, and the 797!!!!!! It will be marvelous!

Glad you agree. Your enthusiasm is contagious! :)

Whatever, as long as it's not hub-and-spoke.

Possible Plane Order
 

I heard that we are getting all of allegiant’s old MD-80s. We already have the manuals and training program from back in the day so won’t be too much cost in getting it started back up, plus lots of our senior guys are already typed.


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Like ^^^ ha ha

Don’t forget all of those used DC-9 planes we are getting for the smaller markets. We have that program as well.

We are getting 6 L1011’s from Africa next quarter, you heard it here first.

Heck I’d bid for that...Probably a more fun plane to fly than an “Airbus” 220.

We would have industry leading pay for our Flight Engineers.

It’s actually only 5. The 6th is being used for parts. The L1011-500 has the range we need for Deep South.