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Originally Posted by putzin
(Post 2801189)
And..... We should do what about it?
My point is, you're a broken record. 🍻 |
Originally Posted by David Puddy
(Post 2801229)
Who cares? Last time I checked this was a discussion forum about Spirit. Are you always this cranky? Would you rather suppress peoples’ points of view? Just ignoring the thread would be a good option for you if you have nothing to add.
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Aircraft order will be announced in Q5.
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
(Post 2801125)
That’s my point. Completely agree. Without securing slots earlier, the alternatives are expensive aircraft leasing or scavenging with others looking to add older Airbuses like UAL, Allegiant and the Chinese LCCs. The Airbus order backlog is long....
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 2801415)
Don't worry, the backlog for the max is getting shorter by the hour.
https://i.imgur.com/nKpac1H.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wcxUy2R.jpg |
Originally Posted by AirbusA321Pilot
(Post 2801677)
Fake news! The nose is pointed in the wrong direction. |
Originally Posted by putzin
(Post 2801805)
Fake news!
The nose is pointed in the wrong direction. |
Originally Posted by AirbusA321Pilot
(Post 2801817)
LOL!! Don't get you panties in a bunch. Where in my post did I say were getting 737's? All I did was post a couple of pics and say bring on the 737's.
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 2801841)
Whoosh? I’m thinking nose should be 40deg down.....
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Originally Posted by putzin
(Post 2801805)
Fake news!
The nose is pointed in the wrong direction. |
Sorta getting closer to a decision.... First round of proposals done? See below:
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/77824-spirit-airlines-nears-fleet-order-stalls-mro-decision Only time will tell..... Perhaps we’ll hear something at the Paris Air Show in June.... |
VP of Flight Ops told our recurrent class this week that they expect a decision around Q3. 2nd round of manufacturer proposals is happening now. He indicated the intent is to have continuity in deliveries from our current order to the next.
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David I think you’re a bit premature.
The RFP process is just the first step. Basically all the airframe manufactures have submitted their bids for whatever order size NK has tendered. Now the lawyers and bean counters will spend a few months dissecting these contracts and negotiating changes and amendments back and forth, probably playing one off the other, until a final deal is structured. Then, if all parties are satisfied, will they sign the contract and make the announcement. I’d wager we don’t hear anything until later this fall. |
Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
(Post 2817028)
David I think you’re a bit premature.
The RFP process is just the first step. Basically all the airframe manufactures have submitted their bids for whatever order size NK has tendered. Now the lawyers and bean counters will spend a few months dissecting these contracts and negotiating changes and amendments back and forth, probably playing one off the other, until a final deal is structured. Then, if all parties are satisfied, will they sign the contract and make the announcement. I’d wager we don’t hear anything until later this fall. |
Possible Plane Order
Originally Posted by FNGFO
(Post 2817197)
I was recently told that the entire process was contracted out to a third party, and that we’d do whatever they suggested once they reached their purchasing conclusion.
If Spirit is good at something it’s contracting stuff out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
(Post 2817207)
If Spirit is good at something it’s contracting stuff out.
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
(Post 2817028)
David I think you’re a bit premature.
The RFP process is just the first step. Basically all the airframe manufactures have submitted their bids for whatever order size NK has tendered. Now the lawyers and bean counters will spend a few months dissecting these contracts and negotiating changes and amendments back and forth, probably playing one off the other, until a final deal is structured. Then, if all parties are satisfied, will they sign the contract and make the announcement. I’d wager we don’t hear anything until later this fall. |
Originally Posted by gripngrab
(Post 2635457)
Looks like NK going with the 220. Look for more info late this week from Farnborough.
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Originally Posted by Flightcap
(Post 2817018)
VP of Flight Ops told our recurrent class this week that they expect a decision around Q3. 2nd round of manufacturer proposals is happening now. He indicated the intent is to have continuity in deliveries from our current order to the next.
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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock
(Post 2818048)
If they're going to get continuity in deliveries we're getting the 190e2 or merging with frontier.
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 2818100)
They said they will have no problem getting airbuses that start being delivered right after our current order ends in 2021
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Originally Posted by Super EZ E
(Post 2818101)
Ted told me the same info, he claims getting new Airbuses is not a problem. As we've seen slots open up, Spirit just wants the best price.
So they told you they're getting airbuses? Slots open up from where? Everything I've read has indicated that delivery slots are taken through sometime in 2023. Maybe they're going to convert the 380 production line to 320s or work some other magic? |
Originally Posted by RgrMurdock
(Post 2818232)
So they told you they're getting airbuses? Slots open up from where? Everything I've read has indicated that delivery slots are taken through sometime in 2023. Maybe they're going to convert the 380 production line to 320s or work some other magic?
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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock
(Post 2818232)
So they told you they're getting airbuses? Slots open up from where? Everything I've read has indicated that delivery slots are taken through sometime in 2023. Maybe they're going to convert the 380 production line to 320s or work some other magic?
Case and point; Spirit would have not been taking their sweet time on an order if Airbus was “first come, first serve”. When they are ready for my Airbus’ (Airbi?) they will have them. |
Originally Posted by Macjet
(Post 2818269)
In case you haven't noticed our fleet plan has grown from 144 to 180 airframes without a single order.
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
(Post 2818309)
This is due to not turning some of the old planes back in.
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Originally Posted by Macjet
(Post 2818312)
All remaining 31 A319's are being kept when we originally were only keep 15 or so. We've also gained refused NEO's, two WOW airframes, and somewhere they found an additional 90 airframes.
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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock
(Post 2818232)
So they told you they're getting airbuses? Slots open up from where? Everything I've read has indicated that delivery slots are taken through sometime in 2023. Maybe they're going to convert the 380 production line to 320s or work some other magic?
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Looks like the Embraer E2 is no longer in contention for a 100+ airframe order. That sucks for people who love the ram horns... ;)
More Airbuses, the MAX (I am sure pricing would be favorable) and the A220 are the remaining choices. Decision to be made in next few months with potential deliveries beginning in 2022. I was hoping for a Paris Air Show announcement later this month but that seems unlikely. See article below: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/spirit-drops-embraer-from-aircraft-campaign-458671/ 100+ new airframes means a lot of growth and pilot movement. That is great news! |
Originally Posted by David Puddy
(Post 2831228)
Looks like the Embraer E2 is no longer in contention for a 100+ airframe order. That sucks for people who love the ram horns... ;)
More Airbuses, the MAX (I am sure pricing would be favorable) and the A220 are the remaining choices. Decision to be made in next few months with potential deliveries beginning in 2022. I was hoping for a Paris Air Show announcement later this month but that seems unlikely. See article below: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/spirit-drops-embraer-from-aircraft-campaign-458671/ 100+ new airframes means a lot of growth and pilot movement. That is great news! 7.3 years of orders. Want to take a guess what airframe makes up 80% of those 5900 planes, the 737 NG/Max makes up the 80%. They are not in any need to give this plane away and the public has pretty much moved on to trade wars, 2020 election, and the new season of Below Deck on Bravo. |
Possible Plane Order
Originally Posted by Omniscient
(Post 2831362)
This ridiculous notion that the Max is going to be on sale because of recent events is unfounded. As of last month, Boeing has a backlog of 5900 aircraft, which relates to
7.3 years of orders. Want to take a guess what airframe makes up 80% of those 5900 planes, the 737 NG/Max makes up the 80%. They are not in any need to give this plane away and the public has pretty much moved on to trade wars, 2020 election, and the new season of Below Deck on Bravo. You’re correct that there won’t be any huge fire sale because of the 737 issues. The only reason Spirit may get a deal on 737’s is that Boeing wants a slice of the US ulcc market. Spirit, Frontier, and Allegiant are all Airbus. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Pist..... It's AIRBUS! It's like telling a girl you want to break up and she freaks out unexpectedly. Hummm... It makes you consider what you can get away with?? Spirit tried the "fake break up" to get the best deal. We're getting more Airbuses! Or the break up is for real! LOL :D
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Who wants to take bets on an aircraft order in Paris?
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I'll take underwhelmed for 1000 Alex.
An order would be great but I'm not counting on it since they usually blow their timelines, this one was anticipated last year. Wifi was to be easily installed fleet wide by this summer too. Aircraft livery completed a long time ago, etc. I'll be wearing my black and yellow next week though for that big announcement. I hope it happens and I hope it's Airbus with a 3 at the front. |
I'll put my bet on 102 A3xx's.
I base this guess on absolutely nothing and I pulled it straight out of my rear end. |
125 aircraft bus order including A330 options.😁
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50 A220’s
50 A320’s with options of 321’s |
3 airplanes from a Spanish carrier, 2 old returned leases from an Italian carrier and 5 more from the Chinese.
All deals made with reps from other carriers they had dinner with at the Paris airshow. |
A318s. You heard it here first
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Originally Posted by putzin
(Post 2836511)
3 airplanes from a Spanish carrier, 2 old returned leases from an Italian carrier and 5 more from the Chinese.
All deals made with reps from other carriers they had dinner with at the Paris airshow. ^^^^^^ This Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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