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FNGFO 10-24-2019 04:03 PM

Enough to pay for a couple of airbuses.

David Puddy 10-24-2019 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 2911422)
I for one am disappointed we didn’t get the A220. It would be nice to fly something with similar computing power as my wrist watch...

That being said, I did a little happy dance as soon as I found out we are NOT going to be subjugated to the indignities of flying a lipstick’d up Cold War era flying pig... VNAV or not, at $208/hour I’m not paid nearly enough to work that hard.

A good day indeed.

The Airbus was clearly the best choice for fleet commonality, but I agree the A220 would have been a great addition at the lower end of the seating range. It is such a versatile airplane with a very low CASM.

Any idea on how many A319 NEOs have been ordered?

FNGFO 10-24-2019 05:20 PM

The MOU is written such that NK has the flexibility to adjust its order up or down from A220 to 321LXR. In fact, NK will be taking more leases early on to see how the market will shape the aircraft order to meet the demands of the future.

TrojanCMH 10-24-2019 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 2912097)
The MOU is written such that NK has the flexibility to adjust its order up or down from A220 to 321LXR. In fact, NK will be taking more leases early on to see how the market will shape the aircraft order to meet the demands of the future.



Where did you hear this?


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Tranquility 10-24-2019 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 2912097)
The MOU is written such that NK has the flexibility to adjust its order up or down from A220 to 321LXR. In fact, NK will be taking more leases early on to see how the market will shape the aircraft order to meet the demands of the future.

That’s not quite what was said. Their intent is to operate an A320 fleet type. While they do have the option to dial it back to a 220, that is not their goal, based on the conference call.

Omniscient 10-24-2019 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 2912114)
That’s not quite what was said. Their intent is to operate an A320 fleet type. While they do have the option to dial it back to a 220, that is not their goal, based on the conference call.

Exactly correct

Someone asked if they have flexibility to move to other Airbus types. The CFO said yes they do BUT they are interested in the 320 family and operating the 320 family. When asked about the 220, they said the 319 was selected to help serve as the smaller aircraft.

The answer was such a brush off like “sure, yeah....maybe....but won’t happen”

220s aren’t coming and I doubt anything but 320s were ever truly considered

cynicalaviator 10-24-2019 06:44 PM

Congrats for the order...
Honest question: how could a big aircraft order affect potential merger/buyout talks?

Tranquility 10-24-2019 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by cynicalaviator (Post 2912141)
Congrats for the order...
Honest question: how could a big aircraft order affect potential merger/buyout talks?

If I recall correctly, consolidation was brought up, but for the life of me I can’t remember the gist of the answer.

Omniscient 10-24-2019 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 2912158)
If I recall correctly, consolidation was brought up, but for the life of me I can’t remember the gist of the answer.

They asked management

“We are not asking about consolidation directly, that's not really the issue. But with the new aircraft contract, did you build any, I don't know, deliberate contract flexibility into that as part of the order? Should you end up participating in M&A at any point during the delivery stream?”

Answer

Hey, Jamie, it's Ed. So we were pretty thoughtful throughout the course of this order for a variety of things. And as Scott mentioned in his comments, flexibility was a component of our fleet desires going forward and that flexibility went up or down within gauge, and we built a balance sheet to enhance that by the way. So we're very excited about the growth prospects. We feel good about the setup. We have the desired fleet flexibility to move within gauge to get more airplanes that we want, to retire aircraft, to sell aircraft. We have flexibility within the contract as well. So I would say, broadly speaking, I think, we're in a good spot.

FNGFO 10-24-2019 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 2912114)
That’s not quite what was said. Their intent is to operate an A320 fleet type. While they do have the option to dial it back to a 220, that is not their goal, based on the conference call.

Yes. I didn’t imply that 220’s are on tap. I said that the MOU provides the flexibility to adjust the order from anything from the 220 to 321 derivatives. And that is exactly correct.


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