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Tranquility 03-27-2019 06:15 PM

OMFG, are some of you completely high?! And if so, where can I score some tegridy??? :D;):)

elmetal 03-28-2019 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by RonnyK320 (Post 2790990)
Do you guys think Spirit management doesn't want agreements with every airline? I talked to the person in charge of interline agreements at AA, and was directly told they don't want an agreement with Spirit because they wouldn't benefit enough from it. Same reason we lost United.




But yet Frontier AND allegiant both have AA.


How much can they honestly benefit from them?

astral 03-28-2019 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2791753)
But yet Frontier AND allegiant both have AA.
How much can they honestly benefit from them?


Originally Posted by flyingpuma1 (Post 2791000)
I'm sure that's what they told you, but why then do Allegiant and (I'm pretty sure)Frontier have United benefits?

THANK YOU^^^

Anyone believing a word this management says, please remember:

June CBA relief...outside of negotiations!
Last minute PBS...Nov 2017
Distant Learning LOA...outside of negotiations!
Current denial to implement Trip Rigs
RED Green...grievance.
Dropping RES middle days off ...grievance

ALL in bad faith.

United merger?... :p
If and only IF Ted C, and BF get a huge bonus!

shreddykreuger 03-28-2019 03:10 PM

F9 guy here. We don’t have united anymore either, lost it 2-3 years probably for the same reason you guys did. Parents and spouse can fly on WN which is helpful stateside (not domestic partner or companion though). I’ve been told spouses can fly on AA as well, but I wouldn’t know. My registered companion isn’t able to zed on AA or WN

TrojanCMH 03-29-2019 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2791753)
But yet Frontier AND allegiant both have AA.


How much can they honestly benefit from them?



How do you think getting Zeds works? You think it’s something the pilots negotiate and then management pays for? Honest question...


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elmetal 03-29-2019 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 2792706)
How do you think getting Zeds works? You think it’s something the pilots negotiate and then management pays for? Honest question...


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not at all. but the whole "we don't have them because they say they benefit less than we do" is absolute bologna. First of all, zeds are all SPACE AVAILABLE travel. Second, it's absolute dead last in priority (ahead of jumpseaters only) and thirdly they are empty seats that we as employees PAY for, remember, zeds are not free.

Our departments just don't care because we don't seem to care. that's it.

TrojanCMH 03-29-2019 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2792710)
not at all. but the whole "we don't have them because they say they benefit less than we do" is absolute bologna. First of all, zeds are all SPACE AVAILABLE travel. Second, it's absolute dead last in priority (ahead of jumpseaters only) and thirdly they are empty seats that we as employees PAY for, remember, zeds are not free.

Our departments just don't care because we don't seem to care. that's it.



So if that’s the case ALPA national should push for it and say any ALPA pilot should have some sort of non rev benefit on any other ALPA carrier. The company doesn’t care, I agree, but I also don’t think they just gave United up years ago for no reason. There had to be something there or we would still have them.


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elmetal 03-29-2019 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 2792713)
So if that’s the case ALPA national should push for it and say any ALPA pilot should have some sort of non rev benefit on any other ALPA carrier. The company doesn’t care, I agree, but I also don’t think they just gave United up years ago for no reason. There had to be something there or we would still have them.


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I don't disagree at all with this.



as for the italicized, what I am assuming happened is United wanted a return ($$$) for ZEDing on them since we clearly benefit more from them than they do us (we hit what, 50 states and maybe 15 countries, they go to multiple continents). Spirit said no, and out we went. That's my theory

TrojanCMH 03-29-2019 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2792715)
I don't disagree at all with this.



as for the italicized, what I am assuming happened is United wanted a return ($$$) for ZEDing on them since we clearly benefit more from them than they do us (we hit what, 50 states and maybe 15 countries, they go to multiple continents). Spirit said no, and out we went. That's my theory



50 states is not even close for us, much lower number. But I agree with what you’re getting at.


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flyingpuma1 03-29-2019 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2792710)

Our departments just don't care because we don't seem to care. that's it.

^^^^ This.


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