Only at Spirit does another uniform jacket option get people fired up. It’s a nice option for people who don’t like the leather coat and don’t want to bring an extra jacket in the bag. If you don’t like it or think it’s too expensive then don’t wear it. Personally I think the blazer looks the best but the Karbon looks way better than the tired looking leather. But either way, you do you. It’s nice to have options...


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Well, sounds like it is time for you to move to base if that's LITERALLY all you can get with zero trip trade or drop options.

Honest question. Do WN pilots have another option other than the Karbon jacket? I have only seen WN pilots wear those Karbon jackets this winter and nothing else. At all.

I would hate for the company to force us to that being the only approved jacket.

Anyone know how true to size these fit? Example, I got a northface in L, fits great. Karbon run the same or a bit smaller/larger?

I have a puffer down jacket in my bag that squished down to the size of two fists. It’s great for not having to wear the leather on overnights and good for 60 to sub zero temps.

Still haven’t seen a communication on this jacket or if epaulets are to be worn with it.

I doubt it's only at Spirit. Pilots are a fickle bunch. Everything else you said I agree with. It's nice to have options. It would be equally nice if this pilot group would not judge others for their choices. I mean, who gives a hoot who wears long sleeve shirts, blazers, leather coats, or North Face jackets? As long as it is approved uniform attire, rock on! If someone is not wearing approved attire I get it. I personally do not like acting as the uniform police, so whatever. But I totally understand if someone else wants to make that call. Personally I think the Karbon jacket doesn't really work, for me. If it is approved and you want to wear it, have at it. I think you look smashing in it. The last time I personally judged anyone for their outfit was sometime in the 80's when in high school, and then it was because of their choice of spandex!

I commute on them and I see blazers and leather jackets.


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That’s great until your 4 day in February has one overnight in Minneapolis then the rest in Florida. Now I’m stuck dragging the giant heavy leather jacket around on the top of my bag for 3 days in Florida, not to mention shoving it into overhead bins on both my commutes. But to each their own, if you like the leather jacket and it works for you then that’s great. Keep at it.


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Why do we allow HQ guys to dictate what’s on our menu of choices? I mean really, have you seen what those people consider “professional”?
ALPA should have had input (maybe they did but once again didn’t inform anyone) into the choices.
Seriously. Would it be so hard to put together 5-10 outfits that the company approved and let the pilots choose the final ones.