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johnvito 06-06-2019 10:44 AM

Canada
 
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...ervice-458675/

Who’s ready for some poutine, eh?

CAirBear 06-06-2019 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by johnvito (Post 2832866)
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...ervice-458675/

Who’s ready for some poutine, eh?

I absolutely loved overnighting in Ottawa, Montreal and Toronto.

Omniscient 06-06-2019 12:05 PM

More cold destinations and outstation de-ice in the winter. How fun. And we get to clear customs too!!!!!

MCDUmanipulator 06-06-2019 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2832911)
More cold destinations and outstation de-ice in the winter. How fun. And we get to clear customs too!!!!!

You must be a real peach to fly with.

Super EZ E 06-06-2019 12:46 PM

Get out of here HOSER! Canadian beer is Stronger! Good day, ah! :D

https://youtu.be/04u58ifxmRA

Omniscient 06-06-2019 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 2832921)
You must be a real peach to fly with.

Ahhh, the classic school yard insult for pilots. Hurt my feeling so bad.

I stopped getting excited with overnights a long time ago. Does that make me a curmudgeon or just someone who understands this is a job and overnighting with the “MCDUmanipulator” is not the same as being on vacation with friends or family. So sorry if simply being able to say “I’m in Canada” on a Facebook post doesn’t make me warm and fuzzy.

SSlow 06-06-2019 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2832911)
And we get to clear customs too!!!!!

Not necessarily. I would be willing to bet that most of these will be turns out of our FL bases (Canadians love Flo-rida). Usually the pax pre-clear US customs in Canada so you can just walk off the airplane once you land in the US.

TrojanCMH 06-06-2019 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2832961)
Ahhh, the classic school yard insult for pilots. Hurt my feeling so bad.



I stopped getting excited with overnights a long time ago. Does that make me a curmudgeon or just someone who understands this is a job and overnighting with the “MCDUmanipulator” is not the same as being on vacation with friends or family. So sorry if simply being able to say “I’m in Canada” on a Facebook post doesn’t make me warm and fuzzy.



Rather being at home or on vacation with your family and finding something fun to do on a new overnight doesn’t have to be exclusive. So yes it kinda does make you a curmudgeon.


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StrykerB21 06-06-2019 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 2832992)
Rather being at home or on vacation with your family and finding something fun to do on a new overnight doesn’t have to be exclusive. So yes it kinda does make you a curmudgeon.


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Some people choose to sit in their room and sulk. Thats ok.

BeechedJet 06-06-2019 05:32 PM

Just remember when you’re in Canada, if you’re ordering a Molson, that’s a brand and not the beer. A Molson Canadian is a Canadian and a Molson is six of 8 beers on tap at the local commonwealth inspired pub.

Ed Force One 06-06-2019 05:45 PM

I don't know about you, but I like to get out and explore when I'm on an overnight. Why sit in a hotel room all day when I can be hiking ocean cliffs, renting a bike, trying local food, or riding roller coasters at SeaWorld? Canadian cities are great for being outside. (Except in winter)

LandGreen 06-06-2019 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by BeechedJet (Post 2833101)
Just remember when you’re in Canada, if you’re ordering a Molson, that’s a brand and not the beer. A Molson Canadian is a Canadian and a Molson is six of 8 beers on tap at the local commonwealth inspired pub.

And Caesars are more than just a salad in Canada. (Canada’s improved version of a Bloody Mary )

MCDUmanipulator 06-06-2019 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Ed Force One (Post 2833109)
I don't know about you, but I like to get out and explore when I'm on an overnight. Why sit in a hotel room all day when I can be hiking ocean cliffs, renting a bike, trying local food, or riding roller coasters at SeaWorld? Canadian cities are great for being outside. (Except in winter)

Ottawa is awesome in the winter as long as you dress warm. The canal freezes over and you can ice skate for miles and miles.

beverage 06-06-2019 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by BeechedJet (Post 2833101)
Just remember when you’re in Canada, if you’re ordering a Molson, that’s a brand and not the beer. A Molson Canadian is a Canadian and a Molson is six of 8 beers on tap at the local commonwealth inspired pub.

Also remember that they are all $9 Canadian rubles plus commie tax for a tulip glass at the hotel bar. I kid. But not really.

Jamers 06-06-2019 06:56 PM

I’m glad I bought the Karbon jacket.

Qotsaautopilot 06-06-2019 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 2833138)
Ottawa is awesome in the winter as long as you dress warm. The canal freezes over and you can ice skate for miles and miles.

Climate change has pretty much ended this. I think they allow skating for only a couple weeks now.

Halon1211 06-06-2019 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2833172)
Climate change has pretty much ended this. I think they allow skating for only a couple weeks now.

Don’t be dense. Climate change has only risen the earths average temperature about half of a degree C since the industrial revolution. So I highly doubt that claim you are trying to make...you are starting to sound like Symbian.

Halon1211 06-06-2019 08:16 PM

Found it.

https://www.ottawatourism.ca/ottawa-insider/rideau-canal-skateway/

Looks like it is available more than a few weeks in the winter.

Omniscient 06-06-2019 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 2833179)
Don’t be dense. Climate change has only risen the earths average temperature about half of a degree C since the industrial revolution. So I highly doubt that claim you are trying to make...you are starting to sound like Symbian.


https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2458/w...is-a-big-deal/

Well this piece by NASA shows how much .5 degree C can change things. Must be fake news..right?

Halon1211 06-06-2019 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2833181)
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2458/w...is-a-big-deal/

Well this piece by NASA shows how much .5 degree C can change things. Must be fake news..right?

Ah the old strawman argument...

I never said it was fake. Your missing the point. I’m talking about the half of a degree C that has ALREADY happed...not FUTURE events (like what your article is talking about.

MCDUmanipulator 06-06-2019 08:41 PM

Oh goodness. Now a global warming argument. Just when I thought APC couldn’t get more ridiculous.

Lobaeux 06-07-2019 09:02 PM

The chances of getting layovers in St. John’s I’m guessing are less than that of us getting 330’s, but probably higher than us getting profit sharing.

LumberJack 06-08-2019 01:15 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 2833179)
Don’t be dense. Climate change has only risen the earths average temperature about half of a degree C since the industrial revolution. So I highly doubt that claim you are trying to make...you are starting to sound like Symbian.

Only? That's enormous! You highly doubt because it doesn't sound like a lot, but it's .8°C (1.4°F), and that's a huge amount for the planet!

”A one-degree global change is significant because it takes a vast amount of heat to warm all the oceans, atmosphere, and land by that much. In the past, a one- to two-degree drop was all it took to plunge the Earth into the Little Ice Age. A five-degree drop was enough to bury a large part of North America under a towering mass of ice 20,000 years ago."

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world-of-change/DecadalTemp

We are causing climate change, it's not a debate anymore.

Russia is heavily investing in ice breakers (some armed) so they can control the Arctic shipping lanes and natural resources. The USA has two, and they're both about 40 years old. We need to get our heads out of the sand.

Halon1211 06-08-2019 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by LumberJack (Post 2833688)
Only? That's enormous! You highly doubt because it doesn't sound like a lot, but it's .8°C (1.4°F), and that's a huge amount for the planet!

”A one-degree global change is significant because it takes a vast amount of heat to warm all the oceans, atmosphere, and land by that much. In the past, a one- to two-degree drop was all it took to plunge the Earth into the Little Ice Age. A five-degree drop was enough to bury a large part of North America under a towering mass of ice 20,000 years ago."

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world-of-change/DecadalTemp

We are causing climate change, it's not a debate anymore.

Russia is heavily investing in ice breakers (some armed) so they can control the Arctic shipping lanes and natural resources. The USA has two, and they're both about 40 years old. We need to get our heads out of the sand.

Maybe you can join the flight shame movement?

Omniscient 06-08-2019 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 2833734)
Maybe you can join the flight shame movement?

Ahh, the straw man argument you accuse others of.

Stick to lying about being a FA, a pilot at regional, or knowing new destinations; that’s more your thing.

Halon1211 06-08-2019 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2833739)
Ahh, the straw man argument you accuse others of.

Stick to lying about being a FA, a pilot at regional, or knowing new destinations; that’s more your thing.

Yes I am guilty of it too:/

...but that is what happens when your emotion gets the best of you. Noticed what Lumberjack posted? He was so caught up in his global warming emotion that he didn’t even realized that what he posted isn’t even what I was arguing about. That only point I was trying to make it that .5C probably isn’t even enough in temperature rise to prevent people from Ice skating in that area in Ottawa that the other poster was talking about. I even provided an article (very unlike me when I talk about a new Spirit destination) from this winter to prove my claim. Yet Lumberjack, like a few others heard the word global warming and came running on here with their torches and pitch forks and didn’t even bother to understand what I trying to commenting about.

That’s just my rant for the day...

Acehole 06-08-2019 08:45 AM

Can we get back to Canada? Jeez.

Halon1211 06-08-2019 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Acehole (Post 2833801)
Can we get back to Canada? Jeez.

Vancouver and Calgary is what I’m hoping for. Those are some pretty cool places.

I could see us doing well with flights from LAX or ORD to those places.

SSlow 06-08-2019 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 2833803)
Vancouver and Calgary is what I’m hoping for. Those are some pretty cool places.

I could see us doing well with flights from LAX or ORD to those places.

IF we do get overnights they will most likely be scheduled for 16:44 or less. PBS is the demise of our long stay hotels. Have fun eating grossly overpriced Canadian food at the hotel bar.

Shangri La 06-08-2019 09:11 AM

Though it's not very realistic I would definitely enjoy some Victoria layovers.

GWY320 06-08-2019 09:54 AM

How about that international per diem...

symbian simian 06-08-2019 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 2833810)
IF we do get overnights they will most likely be scheduled for 16:44 or less. PBS is the demise of our long stay hotels. Have fun eating grossly overpriced Canadian food at the hotel bar.

PBS has nothing to do with long/short layover, pairings are constructed in the exact same way as before, the only difference is how they’re added to your schedule.

New trip rigs/work rules is what changed pairings. Did you think we would go from 1hr/4:20hr TAFB to 1hr/3:30hr TAFB and allowing 9 hours block iso 8 hours block, without the pairings getting more block and less rest?

CLRtoPush 06-08-2019 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by LumberJack (Post 2833688)
Only? That's enormous! You highly doubt because it doesn't sound like a lot, but it's .8°C (1.4°F), and that's a huge amount for the planet!

”A one-degree global change is significant because it takes a vast amount of heat to warm all the oceans, atmosphere, and land by that much. In the past, a one- to two-degree drop was all it took to plunge the Earth into the Little Ice Age. A five-degree drop was enough to bury a large part of North America under a towering mass of ice 20,000 years ago."

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world-of-change/DecadalTemp

We are causing climate change, it's not a debate anymore.

Russia is heavily investing in ice breakers (some armed) so they can control the Arctic shipping lanes and natural resources. The USA has two, and they're both about 40 years old. We need to get our heads out of the sand.

I’m guessing you believe we landed on the moon too. I pity your state controlled mind!

Super EZ E 06-08-2019 06:06 PM

The earth has warmed since the ice age. Guess what? No internal combusting engine. Sorry I don't want to confuse any of you snow flakes with facts. :cool:

AllOva736 06-08-2019 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2834029)
The earth has warmed since the ice age. Guess what? No internal combusting engine. Sorry I don't want to confuse any of you snow flakes with facts. :cool:

Facts? Hahaha. Please tell us more about how the world works as seen through the eyes of FOX. Or did you come up with how global science works all on your own?

beech_nut 06-08-2019 07:40 PM

Much better to believe such brilliant scientific minds as Al Gore. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Behold the coming apocalypse as predicted on and around Earth Day, 1970:

"Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind." — Harvard biologist George Wald
"We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation." — Washington University biologist Barry Commoner
"Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction." — New York Times editorial
"Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years." — Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich
"Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born… [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s." — Paul Ehrlich
"It is already too late to avoid mass starvation," — Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day
"Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions…. By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine." — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter
"In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution… by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." — Life magazine
"At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it's only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable." — Ecologist Kenneth Watt
"Air pollution...is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone." — Paul Ehrlich
"By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate… that there won't be any more crude oil. You'll drive up to the pump and say, ‘Fill 'er up, buddy,' and he'll say, ‘I am very sorry, there isn't any.'" — Ecologist Kenneth Watt
"[One] theory assumes that the earth's cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun's heat, the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born." — Newsweek magazine
"The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age." — Kenneth Watt
Quotes from "Earth Day, Then and Now," by Ronald Bailey, Reason.com. May 1, 2000.
Follow Jon on Twitter at @ExJon.

AllOva736 06-08-2019 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by beech_nut (Post 2834065)
Much better to believe such brilliant scientific minds as Al Gore. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Behold the coming apocalypse as predicted on and around Earth Day, 1970:

"Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind." — Harvard biologist George Wald
"We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation." — Washington University biologist Barry Commoner
"Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction." — New York Times editorial
"Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years." — Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich
"Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born… [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s." — Paul Ehrlich
"It is already too late to avoid mass starvation," — Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day
"Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions…. By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine." — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter
"In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution… by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." — Life magazine
"At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it's only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable." — Ecologist Kenneth Watt
"Air pollution...is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone." — Paul Ehrlich
"By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate… that there won't be any more crude oil. You'll drive up to the pump and say, ‘Fill 'er up, buddy,' and he'll say, ‘I am very sorry, there isn't any.'" — Ecologist Kenneth Watt
"[One] theory assumes that the earth's cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun's heat, the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born." — Newsweek magazine
"The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age." — Kenneth Watt
Quotes from "Earth Day, Then and Now," by Ronald Bailey, Reason.com. May 1, 2000.
Follow Jon on Twitter at @ExJon.

Well that’s cool, you had a stash of extreme views about climate change prepared for this argument. Maybe I’m the last republican on earth who believes in climate change...... or science for that matter. Don’t worry though, the earth will never change and humans have no impact on it.

beech_nut 06-08-2019 08:00 PM

I didn't have a stash of them. I remembered reading about how ridiculous the claims were so I googled it then cut and pasted. I'm just saying a little perspective. The people who made these claims were the top scientists of their day. They were just as convinced about the claims they made then as the climate change crowd is today. Don't be surprised if you are a young person now by the time you get old this man made climate change stuff will sound just as silly as the quotes from Earth day 1970 sound today. No harm in conservation, and getting off fossil fuel would be great but keep everything in perspective. Moderation in all things.

The sky is not falling. It never was and it never will.

AllOva736 06-08-2019 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by beech_nut (Post 2834076)
I didn't have a stash of them. I remembered reading about how ridiculous the claims were so I googled it then cut and pasted. I'm just saying a little perspective. The people who made these claims were the top scientists of their day. They were just as convinced about the claims they made then as the climate change crowd is today. Don't be surprised if you are a young person now by the time you get old this man made climate change stuff will sound just as silly as the quotes from Earth day 1970 sound today. No harm in conservation but keep everything in perspective. Moderation in all things.

The sky is not falling. It never was and it never will.

I absolutely hope you’re correct. The future would be much better off if it turns out that it’s not as big of a deal as current ( or past ) scientists make it out to be.

ESQ702 06-08-2019 10:13 PM

Sweeeeeet.

Canada —->Global Warming

Next topic: best angles to watch paint dry please.


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